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    Default JI detainee does a prison break.

    Huh... A month liao yet no news at all...

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    Three critical factors led to Mas Selamat's escape
    Posted: 21 April 2008 1547 hrs

    SINGAPORE: A confluence of three critical factors led to security lapses that resulted in Jemaah Islamiyah (JI) detainee Mas Selamat Kastari's escape from detention in February.

    This was the conclusion of the Committee of Inquiry (COI) on Mas Selamat's escape from the Whitley Road Detention Centre on 27 February this year.

    The findings of the three-member panel were presented by Deputy Prime Minister and Home Affairs Minister Wong Kan Seng in Parliament on Monday afternoon in a Ministerial Statement.

    First, there was a physical security breach as the ventilation window in the toilet from which Mas Selamat made his escape did not have grilles.

    Second, the guards watching Mas Selamat allowed him to close the door of the urinal cubicle when they should not have done so.

    And third, there was a physical weakness in the perimeter fencing outside the Family Visitation Block, where the toilet was located, which made it easier for Mas Selamat to get out of the detention centre's premises.

    On the day of his escape, Mas Selamat was escorted by two Gurkha guards and a Special Duty Operative - who is an Internal Security Department (ISD) officer - from his cell to a locker room to change into civilian clothes for his family's visit.

    At the locker room, the guards lost sight of him when he stood behind a column of lockers to change. He was then escorted to the Family Visitation Block, where he used a toilet, renovated in 2007, to shave and comb his hair before meeting his family members.

    He then entered a urinal cubicle, closed the door and turned on a water tap inside the cubicle. One guard stood outside the cubicle door, while the other was outside the main toilet door.

    After a while, the guard outside the cubicle felt Mas Selamat was taking too long. But instead of checking, he alerted the second guard outside the toilet, who alerted the female Duty Operative.

    The Duty Operative then alerted a male Assistant Case Officer, who ran in, kicked open the door and found Mas Selamat gone. The ventilation window in the cubicle was left open.

    Mr Wong said the delay by the guards and their failure to keep Mas Selamat in sight was the second most critical security failure which led to the terrorist's escape. By this time, 11 minutes had lapsed since he first entered the toilet.

    The COI found that during renovations in 2007, grilles had not been fixed to that particular toilet window due to a misunderstanding between the ISD and the contractor.

    The superintendent of the centre, who was alerted to this weakness in May 2007, asked the contractor to saw off the window handle as a security measure instead, which Mr Wong said was a bad judgement on the superintendent's part.

    In addition, the CCTV coverage of the area was being upgraded to add motion-detectors, but the cameras were not yet operational.

    While there is no conclusive evidence as to how he had escaped from the centre after that, the COI believes Mas Selamat may have climbed onto the roof of an enclosed staircase which converges with the perimeter fencing. He could then have jumped over the fencing out of the centre.

    The COI also believes that the JI leader had planned his escape over time.

    DPM Wong said: "Prior to his escape, during previous family visits, Mas Selamat had partially closed the urinal cubicle door on some occasions.

    "On 5 February 2008, he had closed the urinal cubicle door completely and turned on the water tap. The COI believes that these actions by Mas Selamat could have been done to test how the guards would react. This could also have helped him prepare for his actual escape attempt.

    "This planning had not been noted by the guards, possibly because the guards are frequently rotated to avoid over familiarisation or fraternisation with detainees."

    The COI comprising Mr Goh Joon Seng, a retired High Court Judge; Mr Tee Tua Ba, a retired Commissioner of Police; and Dr Choong May Ling, Deputy Secretary of Security at the Home Affairs Ministry was given full access to all information in its investigations of Mas Selamat's escape.

    This included highly classified and sensitive information on operational systems and processes, as well as access to interviews with ISD intelligence and field personnel.

    The committee submitted its report on 10 April and Mr Wong said he is "satisfied" that it has "held nothing back" in its conclusions and recommendations.

    He added that in view of the keen and valid interest of MPs and the public, an Executive Summary has been released on the COI's findings.

    In response to a question from opposition non-constituency MP Sylvia Lim, Mr Wong said Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong is expected to make a ministerial statement in Parliament on Tuesday on government responsibility for Mas Selamat's escape.


    - CNA/so

    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...342715/1/.html

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    like a soap opera

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    this is the best

    After a while, the guard outside the cubicle felt Mas Selamat was taking too long. But instead of checking, he alerted the second guard outside the toilet, who alerted the female Duty Operative.

    The Duty Operative then alerted a male Assistant Case Officer, who ran in, kicked open the door and found Mas Selamat gone. The ventilation window in the cubicle was left open.

    why cant the Guard A just knock the door, no answer, kick open the door?
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    photography makes one sees things from all angles.

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    i find this best...
    In addition, the CCTV coverage of the area was being upgraded to add motion-detectors, but the cameras were not yet operational.

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    go toilet during O levels also got more security..

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    looking at the schematic floor plan of the toilet, why the hell did the guadr let him use the cubical with the windows? there are 2 empty ones inside (i assume it was empty since not mentioned).
    photography makes one sees things from all angles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denniskee View Post
    looking at the schematic floor plan of the toilet, why the hell did the guadr let him use the cubical with the windows? there are 2 empty ones inside (i assume it was empty since not mentioned).
    where can one view the schematic floor plan?
    curious
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    The report does not touch that the Whitley area has a lot of schools and many school children were put in harm's way when Mas Selamat escaped.

    There's now an urgent need to relocate the Whitley detention centre.

    Everytime these things happens, the cameras mysteriously do not work.
    Last edited by xtemujin; 21st April 2008 at 11:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denniskee View Post
    this is the best

    After a while, the guard outside the cubicle felt Mas Selamat was taking too long. But instead of checking, he alerted the second guard outside the toilet, who alerted the female Duty Operative.

    The Duty Operative then alerted a male Assistant Case Officer, who ran in, kicked open the door and found Mas Selamat gone. The ventilation window in the cubicle was left open.

    why cant the Guard A just knock the door, no answer, kick open the door?
    It is a planned escape fully assisted by ISD.
    Last edited by Silence Sky; 21st April 2008 at 11:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willdon View Post
    i find this best...
    In addition, the CCTV coverage of the area was being upgraded to add motion-detectors, but the cameras were not yet operational.
    Very obvious, motion-detectors is also not working and they failed to point that out in the report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtemujin View Post
    My Cousin Saw Mas Selamat!


    My cousin works at McDonalds, White Sands.

    Last week, he was on the closing shift which ends at 2am. On the way home, he saw police at the MRT's 7-11. He knows the guys working there, and asked what's up?

    The two guys actually served Mas Selamat! When he came in the store, they suspected it was him but acted naturally to avoid confrontation whatsoever but called the police soon after he left. Guess what? The police came 2 - 3 hours later!! And they viewed the CCTV footage and apparently the image matched! He was wearing the same slippers and pants, has a limp too!

    So well actually my cousin only saw Mas Selamat on CCTV. haha but still! that's a very close encounter!

    Now i understand why the minister kept saying, "We have no reason to believe he's left the country" bcause the criminal has been sighted inland!

    For the benefit of my foreign readers, Mas Selamat escaped a Whitley Detention centre some 19 days ago. He was alleged to have been planning to plant a bomb in an aircraft from Indonesia inbound to our Changi airport. I believe this is the first time a jailor had ever escaped from a prison in S'pore!! Well.. you can read more here

    http://jussaemon.blogspot.com/2008/0...s-selamat.html

    Shows that MacDonald's Advertising works. He escaped from Prison and his first sighting is not to eat Nasi Lemak but MacDonald's.

    Alternatively, you can think that he did the prison break so that he can dine on his fav food... MacDonald's.
    Don't brag about your accomplishments; Show us your future works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtemujin View Post

    Everytime these things happens, the cameras mysteriously do not work.
    You are wrong, it works perfectly well when James Gomez failed to submit his forms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtemujin View Post

    Everytime these things happens, the cameras mysteriously do not work.
    It works perfectly well when James Gomez failed to submit his forms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denniskee View Post
    this is the best

    After a while, the guard outside the cubicle felt Mas Selamat was taking too long. But instead of checking, he alerted the second guard outside the toilet, who alerted the female Duty Operative.

    The Duty Operative then alerted a male Assistant Case Officer, who ran in, kicked open the door and found Mas Selamat gone. The ventilation window in the cubicle was left open.

    why cant the Guard A just knock the door, no answer, kick open the door?
    Process Process.....cannot skip even one step.

    Step by step, follow the standard operational procedure. Don't use common sense...follow the operational directive...this is what they are taught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtemujin View Post
    My Cousin Saw Mas Selamat!


    My cousin works at McDonalds, White Sands.

    Last week, he was on the closing shift which ends at 2am. On the way home, he saw police at the MRT's 7-11. He knows the guys working there, and asked what's up?

    The two guys actually served Mas Selamat! When he came in the store, they suspected it was him but acted naturally to avoid confrontation whatsoever but called the police soon after he left. Guess what? The police came 2 - 3 hours later!! And they viewed the CCTV footage and apparently the image matched! He was wearing the same slippers and pants, has a limp too!

    So well actually my cousin only saw Mas Selamat on CCTV. haha but still! that's a very close encounter!

    Now i understand why the minister kept saying, "We have no reason to believe he's left the country" bcause the criminal has been sighted inland!

    For the benefit of my foreign readers, Mas Selamat escaped a Whitley Detention centre some 19 days ago. He was alleged to have been planning to plant a bomb in an aircraft from Indonesia inbound to our Changi airport. I believe this is the first time a jailor had ever escaped from a prison in S'pore!! Well.. you can read more here

    http://jussaemon.blogspot.com/2008/0...s-selamat.html

    Shows that MacDonald's Advertising works. He escaped from Prison and his first sighting is not to eat Nasi Lemak but MacDonald's.

    Alternatively, you can think that he did the prison break so that he can dine on his fav food... MacDonald's.
    Don't brag about your accomplishments; Show us your future works.

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    Resign is the BEST and ONLY option for the DPM and Dir ISD

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    even without watching prison break, the escape is so unbelievable

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    Quote Originally Posted by JacePhoto View Post
    Shows that MacDonald's Advertising works. He escaped from Prison and his first sighting is not to eat Nasi Lemak but MacDonald's.

    Alternatively, you can think that he did the prison break so that he can dine on his fav food... MacDonald's.


    I'm loving it!

    anyway, guys, pls delete all your duplicated post.
    Last edited by denniskee; 22nd April 2008 at 02:21 AM.
    photography makes one sees things from all angles.

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    Gone in 11min.. that's it... SG so small... and he is still out there for 2mths... thats weird.... where the hell is he? can call medium to trace him boh.

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