Do you shoot RAW?

ckiang · 24th May 2003

Do you shoot RAW?

Regards
CK

Azure · 24th May 2003

Yes, but only very very rarely. When I get to borrow the S2 from SK Tan...

Java_Guru · 24th May 2003

I did for my hols in NZ. Ended up with 1400 RAWs that took my PIII 1 Ghz, 36 hours to batch process at combined settings in Breezebrowser. Some of them need to be further tweaked somemore.

Ouch. I begining to regret.

ckiang · 24th May 2003

I figured RAW isn't for things like actual day wedding shoots, event coverage, etc. Not only it takes a long time to write, takes up a lot more space, it also wastes your time in post processing them when at the end of the day, you deliver only 4R prints.

If you shoot landscape for example, where you take your own sweet time, RAW makes more sense. Like Java_Guru's experience, RAW isn't for travelling either.

Regards
CK

Java_Guru · 24th May 2003

But I really did like the ability to tweak the white balance settings.

Also the Adobe Camera Raw is amazing single interface tool for tweaking photos.

It is the pure size of RAW and CPU computation power that is irritating. sigh.

ericp · 24th May 2003

I haven't found a case where I needed the extra "bandwidth" for manipulation in RAW yet, so I've been happy with the highest quality and size JPEGs, unsharpened in camera. Photoshop takes over from there.

My RAW images are 12.5 MB in size, so that really cramps my style seeing that I only have a 512MB CF so far.

I would see that using RAW will be useful in challenging conditions, but my experience has been that shots from challenging conditions normally get filed in the circular bin ... learnt to shoot only in acceptable conditions ...

My wallet still gently weeps when it thinks of all the Velvia slides I've thrown away ...

Knighthunter · 24th May 2003

I shoot more than 5k images with my D100 but my RAW files is less than 50 pics. I am confident to shoot in JPEG like shooting using 35mm film, like what Mooose Peterson advices at his website " Do it Right, Right at First Time".

suhaimig · 24th May 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by ckiang
Do you shoot RAW?

Regards
CK

No not even once. My F100 doesn't have that function.

Cheers.

StreetShooter · 24th May 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by ckiang
I figured RAW isn't for things like actual day wedding shoots, event coverage, etc. Not only it takes a long time to write, takes up a lot more space, it also wastes your time in post processing them when at the end of the day, you deliver only 4R prints.

If you shoot landscape for example, where you take your own sweet time, RAW makes more sense. Like Java_Guru's experience, RAW isn't for travelling either.

Regards
CK

That's interesting. I use only Jpeg, but I was speaking to Canturn, and he says RAW processing with CaptureOne saves him a huge amount of time. Just set custom white balance, sharpening and a few other parameters, and batch process. No need to go through the files one by one, and no need to use PS.

Almost tempted me, until I realised that I ENJOYED going through the pictures I had taken and tweaking them...

Wai · 24th May 2003

that's why i still prefer shooting RAW with D30...

each pic is <3MB

linse · 25th May 2003

I shoot RAW all the time on my Coolpix 5000. Sadly, I need to in order to overcome it's inconsistent metering and easily blown highlights.

As I photograph people more than landscapes, you don't get the chance to bracket the shots. Correction of white balance is a strong plus point.

I think most people who get by with JPEG are either using DSLRs with better dynamic range, other cameras other than coolpixes (and hence have less of a problem with blown highlights), shoot mainly landscape or

are really that good.

surfs · 25th May 2003

tired captureone for a while until it expired and found it great..
i think the colors turn out better

nuts · 25th May 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by ckiang
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If you shoot landscape for example, where you take your own sweet time, RAW makes more sense. Like Java_Guru's experience, RAW isn't for travelling either.

Regards
CK

On the contrary, I try to shoot RAW when travelling. The conditions out there are unpredictable, and I don't want to come back with shots with wrong WB from some prev scenes etc. And exposure compensation can help make sure your most memorable shots are, well, memorable

And I'm only using a AMD K6 450MHz machine....

Quote:

Originally posted by StreetShooter
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Almost tempted me, until I realised that I ENJOYED going through the pictures I had taken and tweaking them...

Hmm? Then, all the more you should use RAW!!.... Soooo many things you can tweak...

..NuTs..

MashiMaro · 25th May 2003

Seriously, I can't remember when was the last time I shoot JPEG.

David · 25th May 2003

I shoot RAW all the time....contrary to what someone said, RAW is suitable for travelling. I find it fun to go thru my images slowly over the course or weeks (or months) and throw away those I don't really want. RAW to me is your digital negatives. The best about using my D30 is that RAW takes <3MB.

I don't think jpg is a "waste of time" as the poll says above!!! Not sure what that is supposed to mean! There are times when you want to use jpg. For me less important images are in jpg. No way for travel photography. RAAAAAAAAAW!!!

Cool_VIR · 25th May 2003

Me too

james m · 25th May 2003

I have never tried shooting in the RAW, but might give it a go one day once the weather warms up....

skfoo · 25th May 2003

I shoot RAW most of the time when using DSLR. Perhaps because digital is a new medium to me that works quite differently from SLR using film. Shooting RAW gives me the flexibility to match WB with contrast and brightness adjustments etc via Nikon View 6 software. On a few occasions, I was able to salvage some wrongly exposed photos. Sure it would be nice to be able to shoot like Moose Peterson "right at first time." But he has been taking pictures ALL HIS LIFE. Me.....I am only taking pictures when I am free during weekend, holidays etc. The learning curves bound to be different and shooting RAW gives me the ability to correct some of my mistakes.

ericp · 25th May 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by mysteriousjimmy
I have never tried shooting in the RAW, but might give it a go one day once the weather warms up....

Make sure you get the WB correct for those skin tones

I mean, I'd assume your subjects would be similarly inclined ?

Watcher · 26th May 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by mysteriousjimmy
I have never tried shooting in the RAW, but might give it a go one day once the weather warms up....

Oh come on! While we here are suffering from the horrid weather, you could go to Threadbo and give us some nice photos to suan us

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View Poll Results: Do you shoot RAW?
Yes, RAW for everything (snaps included). JPG is a waste of time.	425	36.73%
Yes, only for more important shots and when time is not an issue	437	37.77%
No, JPEG only. RAW is too big, takes up too much time to process.	231	19.97%
No, I shoot TIFF (siao)	8	0.69%
No, camera does not support RAW	31	2.68%
What's RAW?	25	2.16%
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24th May 2003	#1
ckiang Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 6,597	Do you shoot RAW? Do you shoot RAW? Regards CK

24th May 2003	#7
Knighthunter Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pigeon Hole in Mandalay Posts: 1,003	I shoot more than 5k images with my D100 but my RAW files is less than 50 pics. I am confident to shoot in JPEG like shooting using 35mm film, like what Mooose Peterson advices at his website " Do it Right, Right at First Time". __________________ S&S RDX-500D Set, S&S DX-1G, S&S YS-110 Alpha

25th May 2003	#12
surfs Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 323	captureone tired captureone for a while until it expired and found it great.. i think the colors turn out better

25th May 2003	#18
skfoo Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,187	I shoot RAW most of the time when using DSLR. Perhaps because digital is a new medium to me that works quite differently from SLR using film. Shooting RAW gives me the flexibility to match WB with contrast and brightness adjustments etc via Nikon View 6 software. On a few occasions, I was able to salvage some wrongly exposed photos. Sure it would be nice to be able to shoot like Moose Peterson "right at first time." But he has been taking pictures ALL HIS LIFE. Me.....I am only taking pictures when I am free during weekend, holidays etc. The learning curves bound to be different and shooting RAW gives me the ability to correct some of my mistakes. Last edited by skfoo; 25th May 2003 at 11:44 PM.

24th May 2003	#2
Azure Deregistered Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ClubSNAP community Posts: 2,783	Yes, but only very very rarely. When I get to borrow the S2 from SK Tan...

24th May 2003	#3
Java_Guru Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 785	I did for my hols in NZ. Ended up with 1400 RAWs that took my PIII 1 Ghz, 36 hours to batch process at combined settings in Breezebrowser. Some of them need to be further tweaked somemore. Ouch. I begining to regret.

24th May 2003	#6
ericp Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 577	I haven't found a case where I needed the extra "bandwidth" for manipulation in RAW yet, so I've been happy with the highest quality and size JPEGs, unsharpened in camera. Photoshop takes over from there. My RAW images are 12.5 MB in size, so that really cramps my style seeing that I only have a 512MB CF so far. I would see that using RAW will be useful in challenging conditions, but my experience has been that shots from challenging conditions normally get filed in the circular bin ... learnt to shoot only in acceptable conditions ... My wallet still gently weeps when it thinks of all the Velvia slides I've thrown away ...

24th May 2003	#10
Wai Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South Pole with Penguins Posts: 5,131	that's why i still prefer shooting RAW with D30... each pic is <3MB

25th May 2003	#11
linse Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 314	I shoot RAW all the time on my Coolpix 5000. Sadly, I need to in order to overcome it's inconsistent metering and easily blown highlights. As I photograph people more than landscapes, you don't get the chance to bracket the shots. Correction of white balance is a strong plus point. I think most people who get by with JPEG are either using DSLRs with better dynamic range, other cameras other than coolpixes (and hence have less of a problem with blown highlights), shoot mainly landscape or are really that good.

25th May 2003	#14
MashiMaro Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 566	Seriously, I can't remember when was the last time I shoot JPEG.

25th May 2003	#15
David Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,155	I shoot RAW all the time....contrary to what someone said, RAW is suitable for travelling. I find it fun to go thru my images slowly over the course or weeks (or months) and throw away those I don't really want. RAW to me is your digital negatives. The best about using my D30 is that RAW takes <3MB. I don't think jpg is a "waste of time" as the poll says above!!! Not sure what that is supposed to mean! There are times when you want to use jpg. For me less important images are in jpg. No way for travel photography. RAAAAAAAAAW!!!

25th May 2003	#16
Cool_VIR Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 221	Me too

25th May 2003	#17
james m Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 441	I have never tried shooting in the RAW, but might give it a go one day once the weather warms up....