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    Quote Originally Posted by ortega View Post
    i started using photoshop when it was version 2.5 and came in diskettes
    My Photoshop came in a book of binary codes.

    I had to type them into my Commodore PC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    just think this way, photography is just like a girl, photoshop just like facial make up,

    since when a girl start to know about make up?

    does a girl need make up??

    can a girl go without make up??

    what if a girl having too much make up??
    I like this analogy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    My Photoshop came in a book of binary codes.

    I had to type them into my Commodore PC.
    you win liao,

    anyway, I used to send my prints to one Ah Lao to do touch up, charging $8 for one 8R.
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    Default Re: DSLR + Photoshop. Is it a must?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    My Photoshop came in a book of binary codes.

    I had to type them into my Commodore PC.
    the oldest PS came as a typewriter
    you need to type your image onto a piece of paper

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    I don't know about other brands but I know Nikon DSLR doesn't come with photoshop. If the DLSR doesn't come with Photoshop and the user doesn't have a licensed copy, then PP shouldn't be part of the workflow.

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    I don't know about other brands but I know Nikon DSLR doesn't come with photoshop. If the DLSR doesn't come with Photoshop and the user doesn't have a licensed copy, then PP shouldn't be part of the workflow.
    Crusher, I hope your comment to be made tongue-in-cheek. Which camera comes with Photoshop? Does it have to be Photoshop? Can't it be some freeware?

    PP is part and parcel of photography. It merely depends on how you process it and how much you process.

    If you have dust on your sensor, will you not post-process it? Or are you going to keep taking pictures at that spot, and deleting it each time because you couldnt get it right? You just keep capturing the spots.

    Or are you going to clean your sensor then and there, right in the open?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crusher View Post
    I don't know about other brands but I know Nikon DSLR doesn't come with photoshop. If the DLSR doesn't come with Photoshop and the user doesn't have a licensed copy, then PP shouldn't be part of the workflow.
    happen that photoshop is the most expensive imaging software, so don't think it will bundle together with any digital cameras, but most digital cameras have some form of editing software for the end users..

    anyway, if you don't do anything to your images, but when you send them for print, some how or rather, the lab will still optimize your images before printing.

    so like it or not, the images will be post processing by "the camera" (default or custom setting in camera), "yourself", or "someone" else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crusher View Post
    I don't know about other brands but I know Nikon DSLR doesn't come with photoshop. If the DLSR doesn't come with Photoshop and the user doesn't have a licensed copy, then PP shouldn't be part of the workflow.
    My Nikon DSLR don't come with my PC too to download my photo..... so you mean your workflow is just viewing and editing photo from you camera LCD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crusher View Post
    I don't know about other brands but I know Nikon DSLR doesn't come with photoshop. If the DLSR doesn't come with Photoshop and the user doesn't have a licensed copy, then PP shouldn't be part of the workflow.
    btw, according to your logic, everybody should only use their kit lens, cos it come together with the camera, no other lenses allowed, so what if I buy a D300, it does not come with a lens, am I suppose to shoot without a lens?
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    Guess I agree that post processing happens like it or not (in camera or outside). A matter of degree and extent one would like to take it. I'm just wondering if people spend more time taking pictures or post processing it. Like the girl and make-up analogy though.

    Rgds,

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    Quote Originally Posted by crusher View Post
    I don't know about other brands but I know Nikon DSLR doesn't come with photoshop. If the DLSR doesn't come with Photoshop and the user doesn't have a licensed copy, then PP shouldn't be part of the workflow.
    I am using an Adobe camera that comes with an in-built Photoshop.

    It has the ability to project the image from LCD screen to a wall for detailed retouching.


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    Default Re: DSLR + Photoshop. Is it a must?

    That is why i try to get a best shot every time i shoot.
    No need for ps.
    At most crop,add frame or B&W.
    End of story

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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    btw, according to your logic, everybody should only use their kit lens, cos it come together with the camera, no other lenses allowed, so what if I buy a D300, it does not come with a lens, am I suppose to shoot without a lens?
    Yes you're spot on.

    You shoot with the camera body cap off without the lens at 1/100,000,000 under Singapore afternoon sun for the shallowest depth of field imaginable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    happen that photoshop is the most expensive imaging software, so don't think it will bundle together with any digital cameras, but most digital cameras have some form of editing software for the end users..

    anyway, if you don't do anything to your images, but when you send them for print, some how or rather, the lab will still optimize your images before printing.

    so like it or not, the images will be post processing by "the camera" (default or custom setting in camera), "yourself", or "someone" else.
    It comes together with my notebook...
    Does it not come with yours?

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    telling photographer not to do post process is like telling a girl not to apply make up.

    depend how you put it will yield difference response...

    #1, "don't need do make up lar, have make up or no make up all makes no difference..."

    #2, "you already very pretty liao, don't need to add on anything..."

    don't believe? try on your girlfriend and see lar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    telling photographer not to do post process is like telling a girl not to apply make up.

    depend how you put it will yield difference response...

    #1, "don't need do make up lar, have make up or no make up all makes no difference..."

    #2, "you already very pretty liao, don't need to add on anything..."

    don't believe? try on your girlfriend and see lar.
    I think ps should be reserved for crop,frame or B&W or unless you are trying to create a certain special effect or mood from the picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dotaboy View Post
    It comes together with my notebook...
    Does it not come with yours?
    nope, I still using triple 5 notebook.. it does not bundle with anything.
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    Most ppl overdo their pics with photoshop.

    So often you see them cropping half the picture away, super imposing eiffel tower or some part images into it.

    To me, when the reworked image has more than 20% of its part replaced or removed, it is not original anymore.

    Photography is about learning to see and capturing the moments. NOT some bloody jigsaw puzzle!!!

    PPL just dun understand it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by muvouser View Post
    Most ppl overdo their pics with photoshop.

    So often you see them cropping half the picture away, super imposing eiffel tower or some part images into it.

    To me, when the reworked image has more than 20% of its part replaced or removed, it is not original anymore.

    Photography is about learning to see and capturing the moments. NOT some bloody jigsaw puzzle!!!

    PPL just dun understand it!

    ye that's the problem.
    Most of the pic seem OVER PSED.
    But i must say if a person does know how to create a certain mood then it's all good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dotaboy View Post
    I think ps should be reserved for crop,frame or B&W or unless you are trying to create a certain special effect or mood from the picture.
    I personally disagree with that. During flim time, basic PP include colour balance and contrast. Sometime feathering is done for the background.

    For cropping, unless you are doing nature photography, which sometime you have no choice when the subject is too far or too small.
    Others from of shooting, most of the time, the photographer should move a bit forward to take the snap then crop in PP to waste the pixels

    For Frame or composition, that should be done before you press the shutter then clicking on the mouse later.

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