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Old 6th January 2008   #1
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hi people, i am a newbie here and i currently own a NIKON D80 kit and would like to upgrade to a lense as i discovered that i love taking candid pictures and also night shots.

my kit lense don't really allow me to do so but im happy with the still pictures performace. and i would like to go to another level of photography.

can any kind souls please advise what lense should i get if i need:

1) a wider angle
2) fast shutter speed for candid pictures
3) fast shutter speed for low lightings (eg. fireworks display)
4) do i need a external flash to achieve what i want??

i hope many kind souls here would be able to enlighten me.

lotsa ,
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#1 fisheye or wide angle lens. 12~24/14~24/10.5mm etc
#2, you can increase the ISO. What camera mode you are using? ie P/S/A/M
#3, fireworks you need wide angle lens and a black card/cable release/good ballhead/tripod.
#4, what you want to achiever? ie candid photog in low light?

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Originally Posted by twinkleS View Post
hi people, i am a newbie here and i currently own a NIKON D80 kit and would like to upgrade to a lense as i discovered that i love taking candid pictures and also night shots.

my kit lense don't really allow me to do so but im happy with the still pictures performace. and i would like to go to another level of photography.

can any kind souls please advise what lense should i get if i need:

1) a wider angle
2) fast shutter speed for candid pictures
3) fast shutter speed for low lightings (eg. fireworks display)
4) do i need a external flash to achieve what i want??

i hope many kind souls here would be able to enlighten me.

lotsa ,
twinkleS
fireworks display is usually tripod mounted, small aperture, long shutter speed.
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Old 6th January 2008   #4
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sorry i think i have to repharse my question. hum...

i need a lense which can take candid pictures and take equally good picture in low light situation.

is there any particular lense which can achieve wad i need?

sorry for the bad command of english. =P
pls keep the comments coming in!

thanks!

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sorry i think i have to repharse my question. hum...

i need a lense which can take candid pictures and take equally good picture in low light situation.

is there any particular lense which can achieve wad i need?

sorry for the bad command of english. =P
pls keep the comments coming in!

thanks!

lotsa love,
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nikon 17-55mm2.8 or tamron 17-50mm2.8
price difference between them are huge!
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what you are looking for is a fast lens as in f2.8 or faster
fast focusing - AFS

using a higher ISO speed will also let you use your kit lens with a faster shutter speed.

btw fast lens need fast money
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A 50mm f/1.8 would fit your bill. Smalland light enough for quick response and bright enough for low light shooting. Not to mention it's dirt cheap compared to other Nikon lenses!
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time for our mod to conduct new training for next nikon event.
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To TS,

Maybe u want to show us some of your work. It may not be a lack of performance of the kit lens
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Maybe u want to show us some of your work. It may not be a lack of performance of the kit lens
so paiseh... my takings damn bad man. LOL. lets see... might post some... =D

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what you are looking for is a fast lens as in f2.8 or faster
fast focusing - AFS

using a higher ISO speed will also let you use your kit lens with a faster shutter speed.

btw fast lens need fast money
wooo fast money.... hum... my budget is less then 600 bucks... any good lense can fit the bill?? =D
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if have i also shy to attend... lol.

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Not to mention it's dirt cheap compared to other Nikon lenses!
the one you mention not nikon brand??
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if have i also shy to attend... lol.



the one you mention not nikon brand??
50mm f1.8 is nikkor
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50mm f1.8 is nikkor
pardon the newbie me. heh.
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nikon 17-55mm2.8 or tamron 17-50mm2.8
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which one better?
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which one better?
The Nikon 17-55 2.8 is better according to most pros here but given your budget of less than $600, you will definately not be able to buy either of the nikon 17-55 2.8 or the tamron 17-50 2.8.
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The Nikon 17-55 2.8 is better according to most pros here but given your budget of less than $600, you will definately not be able to buy either of the nikon 17-55 2.8 or the tamron 17-50 2.8.
ya thanks. i did some research about the pricing already. =D
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using a fast lens or prime lens is not everything you need, you also need a steady hands.

for candid shots, a zoom lens will be a better option, and also for indoor low light situation, sometime using flash is far better, what is point of have tons of photos, almost of them is out of focus, off color, motion blur and hand shake??

if I were you, would rather spend the money on a flash, and make full use of the current kit lens, buy a better lens will only give you marginally improvement at this moment.
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Nikon 35mm f2? can do pretty good street photography, although it might be too short for candid.

or..... wait until you had save up enough.
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ya thanks. i did some research about the pricing already. =D
FYI, the tamron 17-50 f2.8 fits your budget of $600 if you get it from Orient Photos at simlim. I went last month and asked for the price, they quoted me $600.
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using a fast lens or prime lens is not everything you need, you also need a steady hands.

for candid shots, a zoom lens will be a better option, and also for indoor low light situation, sometime using flash is far better, what is point of have tons of photos, almost of them is out of focus, off color, motion blur and hand shake??

if I were you, would rather spend the money on a flash, and make full use of the current kit lens, buy a better lens will only give you marginally improvement at this moment.
ya, im thinking of changing a lens is because i have tonnes of blurred pictures which i felt very wasted. as i cant capture some of the precious moments. hum... im also considering getting an external flash... =D
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