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    Hi,

    I've read many threads and articles recommending that we shoot in RAW. Because I only have Canon's DPP software, the only benefits I see from shooting RAW is that I can change picture mode and WB. Must we have Photoshop Elements or other software at least to fully utilize RAW?

    thanks

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    Default Re: Benefits of RAW w/o photo editing program?

    Quote Originally Posted by cancan7 View Post
    Hi,

    I've read many threads and articles recommending that we shoot in RAW. Because I only have Canon's DPP software, the only benefits I see from shooting RAW is that I can change picture mode and WB. Must we have Photoshop Elements or other software at least to fully utilize RAW?

    thanks
    I'm not a Canon user, so I won't know how much you can work with using the DPP software. But a better software will work wonders in your post processing work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cancan7 View Post
    Hi,

    I've read many threads and articles recommending that we shoot in RAW. Because I only have Canon's DPP software, the only benefits I see from shooting RAW is that I can change picture mode and WB. Must we have Photoshop Elements or other software at least to fully utilize RAW?

    thanks
    you mean, the canon raw program cannot up contrast etc?

    in any case, there is free software out there.. shooting raw has many benefits
    1) zero compression, you get every ounce of information that the camera records, compared to jpg, which is effectively a loss-y format

    2) you can "save" images if the exposure is not correct. note that this is to a certain extent. your raw program should be able to do this. compare this to using a jpg image, which has lost some information. adjusting exposure/brightness may lead to pixellation. there is less chance of this in raw, but this has its limits as well, it isn't an all saver.

    3) wb is more important than you realise, especially when you're talking about certain subjects like people.. getting funny skin tones because your camera got fooled by the lighting situation, or you didn't set it properly.. is a pain in the ass to correct in any imaging program.. at least i think so. and once again, refer to 2.

    4) hdr is possible from raw. this applies mainly to scenics and landscapes. you will need specialised programs to do this well though. if you do not know what hdr is, google on it.

    5) noise reduction is possible to remove? not sure about this, but it appears so on pentax software.

    and there are more points, but these are the main ones you have to take note of.

    in any case, if you do not have any other image editing program, then at least with raw you will have slightly more control, no? my advice is to get some form anyways, GIMP is free, i think.. and photoshop is always a relatively good investment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cancan7 View Post
    ......I only have Canon's DPP software, the only benefits I see from shooting RAW is that I can change picture mode and WB. Must we have Photoshop Elements or other software at least to fully utilize RAW?
    The following tasks were listed in DPP Ver 2.2 software manual

    - View and organize RAW images
    - Real time edit of a RAW image
    - Freely apply Picture Style
    - Trim an image and change its size
    - Automatic dust removal ( helpful function for dusty CCD & not found in Photoshop Element)
    - Manual dust removal function (IMHO ie. cloning function)
    - Erasing part of picture via cloning
    - Convert from RAW to JPEG or TIFF and save
    - Print RAW image
    - Print contact sheet (multiple images in a piece of paper)
    - Transfer image to image editing software like Photoshop
    - Process large number of RAW image in batches
    - View and organize JPEG or TIFF images
    - Real-time edit of JPEG or TIFF images
    - Chromatic noise reduction for JPEG or TIFF images
    - Organize JPEG or TIFF images
    - Batch file re-naming
    - Print JPEG or TIFF images
    - Colour management compatibility
    - CMYK simulation for commercial printing
    - Display GPS information when such information is tagged to the image file (Ver 3 & above)

    Canon DPP can do much of the general digital image processing before moving the image to Photoshop or other image editing software. Additional information of DPP from Canon
    Last edited by Squid; 6th January 2008 at 12:19 AM. Reason: Add additional link to Canon website

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    thanks for tips people

    I'm considering buying Photoshop Elements. CS3 is waaay too expensive. But I'll need to buy a new PC first. I'm so cheapskate I'm using my company's laptop at home

    I shoot RAW for the important landscape photos when I'm on holiday. But then RAW takes up so much space, I'll need to buy many more CF cards, and it takes so much more time to transfer all that files.

    But I guess all that hassle is worth it when I can PP a photo I really like

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    I used to use DPP to organise and do the initial processing for RAW. Export to TIFF for further work in photoshop.

    But nowadays... I just use ACR for the raw conversion. I must say the noise reduction in DPP seems to be better than photoshop's "stock" removal algorithm though. (the pundits will recommend you use noise ninja or some other similar plug-in for optimal noise removal...)

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    i like adobe lightroom... supports both my G9 and 400D raw format.. has the necessary stuff for digital workflow (at least for my current usage).. even has useful web album output

    DPP (canon s/w) does not support the G9 raw format
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatlapball View Post
    I used to use DPP to organise and do the initial processing for RAW. Export to TIFF for further work in photoshop.

    But nowadays... I just use ACR for the raw conversion. I must say the noise reduction in DPP seems to be better than photoshop's "stock" removal algorithm though. (the pundits will recommend you use noise ninja or some other similar plug-in for optimal noise removal...)
    ACR's NR is harsh at it's default setting of

    Luminance Softening: 0
    Colour Noise Reduction: 25

    What I tend to do is use a mix to make results a little more pleasing. I tend to work on a basic settings set of

    Luminance Softening: 10
    Colour Noise Reduc: 5

    Increasing each by 5 if the noise is not fixed. Of course, I have to be flexible. Knowing what adjustments to each value will do to your image helps too.

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