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    Okay, if one want to go Brid Park, Sungei Buloh etc etc shoot bird etc.... any 3rd party prime lens to recommend (budget constraint)??? Around the 200mm to 300mm range??? (if that is even enough???)....

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    Quote Originally Posted by N-user View Post
    Okay, if one want to go Brid Park, Sungei Buloh etc etc shoot bird etc.... any 3rd party prime lens to recommend (budget constraint)??? Around the 200mm to 300mm range??? (if that is even enough???)....
    For what camera ??

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    Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 HSM lens, why?

    1)High speed lens (f2.8) to freeze bird movement
    2)HSM is for fast autofocus, cause the next sec the bird might just flew away.

    3) i quote sigma, cause u didnt state what model u using thus a general 3rd party brand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyo86sg View Post
    Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 HSM lens, why?

    1)High speed lens (f2.8) to freeze bird movement
    2)HSM is for fast autofocus, cause the next sec the bird might just flew away.

    3) i quote sigma, cause u didnt state what model u using thus a general 3rd party brand.
    Sorry, I use Nikon D50.... but eyeing the D80...

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    Quote Originally Posted by N-user View Post
    Sorry, I use Nikon D50.... but eyeing the D80...
    really depends on ur budget
    if it isnt that high, then a nikon af-s 300 f/4 might be gd for u. also the nikon 70-200/80-200 f/2.8 might be worth considering but u might want to buy a tc too

    of course theres sigma and tokina, but sigma for hsm is

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    You typically need at least 300mm and above to shoot bird, else be bo bo shooter
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    Quote Originally Posted by yehosaphat View Post
    You typically need at least 300mm and above to shoot bird, else be bo bo shooter
    well it depends, but its mostly so
    ive gotten pics at 200mm and less (though on a 1.5x crop sensor) which wouldnt have worked at 300mm

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    the longer the better lah. in JBP 300mm loh.

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    400mm prime.

    I've got a Tokina f/5.6 400mm SD. It's cheap and good. But a bit slow to focus, so good for only slow birds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by longkangman View Post
    the longer the better lah. in JBP 300mm loh.
    ya lar bro, that time you all go outing use the 300mm until siok siok.... me no budget now, just researching only.... but cfm wil go for one of those 3rd party one.... even I got the $$$$, I go buy a Nikon telephoto.... my financial controller will terminate me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by yehosaphat View Post
    You typically need at least 300mm and above to shoot bird, else be bo bo shooter
    ya lor, many years back, went to Sungei Buloh with the 18-200mm..... thought siok siok can shoot.... alamak see those pro, all take out long long lens.... ... I pack up and went back home....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyo86sg View Post
    Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 HSM lens, why?

    1)High speed lens (f2.8) to freeze bird movement
    2)HSM is for fast autofocus, cause the next sec the bird might just flew away.

    3) i quote sigma, cause u didnt state what model u using thus a general 3rd party brand.
    Not long enuff. Esp. for wild birds. For strictly captive birds (i.e. JBP) its good tho.

    For wild birds at Sungei Buloh, Botanics Gardens etc., you will need a minimum 300mm lens and above, period. In fact for birding I would recommend at least a 400mm focal length.

    3rd party lens...if u dun mind zooms, the Sigma 50-500mm "Bigma" or the Tamron 200mm-500mm give you quite decent image quality and reach.

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    At such long telephoto. do you guys use tripod or mono pod all the time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blurry80 View Post
    At such long telephoto. do you guys use tripod or mono pod all the time?
    That would be a good advantage over hand holding. You'd get tired eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garion View Post
    Not long enuff. Esp. for wild birds. For strictly captive birds (i.e. JBP) its good tho.

    For wild birds at Sungei Buloh, Botanics Gardens etc., you will need a minimum 300mm lens and above, period. In fact for birding I would recommend at least a 400mm focal length.

    3rd party lens...if u dun mind zooms, the Sigma 50-500mm "Bigma" or the Tamron 200mm-500mm give you quite decent image quality and reach.
    Yo Garion...excellent recommendation there

    hahah, come come, however lemme put in a word or 2 for the 70-200 range

    A 70-200f2.8 vr can indeed be used for birding, small skittish birds which can be approached are sometimes easier shot handheld. VR is almost a must as very often, the bird is under thick foilage thus resulting in lower light levels. Without stabilisation, the 70-200 range is no longer useful.

    refer to these 2 threads I prev posted:
    http://clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=278589
    http://clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325974

    of course for other birds, u would need a minimum of 400mm
    Also consider the very excellent sigma 120-300f2.8 and use it with a 2x TC,
    I think there's 1 or 2 on the B&S now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N-user View Post
    Okay, if one want to go Brid Park, Sungei Buloh etc etc shoot bird etc.... any 3rd party prime lens to recommend (budget constraint)??? Around the 200mm to 300mm range??? (if that is even enough???)....
    u need a TC or two and at least a lens of 400mm to shoot...
    unless u are lucky enough to have the birds close to u...
    200mm is just close enough to shot animals in the zoo which sometime i dont find it long enough...
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    Quote Originally Posted by blurry80 View Post
    At such long telephoto. do you guys use tripod or mono pod all the time?
    Not if the lens is stabilised, or if the camera has in-body stabilisation. A real boon, cos I find tri/monopods cumbersome.
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    Default Re: Shoot Bird Lens???

    Depends on what kinda birds you wanna photograph i think... because some birds are very small and fast... some birds are very slow and big... I would love to own a Sigma 50-500mm... because it's cheap for it's range. Sigma kinda produce great lenses.

    I am using 70-300mm Sigma now. It's a very very budget lens which worked pretty alright for me since I am not an extreme avid bird shooter, just have interest in bird photography.

    This lens requires really good lighting though because it is slow. Kinda soft too... but if you are able to go down to F8< , then it should be good enuff for own viewing pleasure.



    The above is a cropped pic on a 350D using the Sigma 70-300mm. Taking into consideration that I am just an amateur, the photos could be made better with a better photographer using this lens. So, if you really on a budget like me, maybe you could consider this lens. Just my opinion.

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    if you seriusly want to try "wild bird" photography, pls read the link below...

    http://www.avianwatchasia.org/forums...ead.php?t=3591

    http://www.avianwatchasia.org/forums...ead.php?t=4014

    cheers.
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    I came across this photographer who i personally think he is very good in bird photography, in fact a masterclass i would say. Pick up a few tips by viewing his gallery.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/spw11/s...7602233035657/
    Canon5D 50mm/100mm (macro)/24-105mm/100-400mm
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