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    Default How much to pay model for commercial release?

    Hi,

    I am an amateur to photography and I recently did a photoshoot for a friend who modelled for me for free. The photos turned out well (to me at least haha) and I am considering making them available for sale. If the prints are going to be for commercial profit, I would like to pay my friend for her modelling time and effort.

    Putting aside the question if my photos even sell at all (hahahaa)... If the photos are for commercial release, what is the market rate for the model? My friend usually models for photo shoots for free as a favour to friends and most probably has no idea how to charge. (Neither do I for that matter...) Do we go by the hour?

    I understand there is a model release form that the model can sign to state that her photos are for commercial sale. I am wondering if there is a sample somewhere I can reference from?
    Last edited by yan.and.ying; 27th December 2007 at 04:23 PM.

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    Default Re: How much to charge for commercial release?

    Actually the fee like you mention is subjective, if you're paying out of goodwill then its ok. Some or most model release will have already made known to the models that the pictures will be made commercially available. Most models are paid and hired specially for this commercial and stock photo purpose.

    If your friend is willing that their faces be sold on agreement then its a freewill thing, they just have to sign on the release form without you paying them. Of course if you want to pay its your own goodwill like mentioned, otherwise you can have an informal proposal of sharing half the sales amount their pictures can make

    Feel free to visit any stock photo websites and download their model release forms for a look

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprintist View Post
    Actually the fee like you mention is subjective, if you're paying out of goodwill then its ok.
    Ah okie, thanks very much for the advice.
    I just wanted to check if there is a "proper" way of doing things. :P

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    Default Re: How much to pay model for commercial release?

    Quote Originally Posted by yan.and.ying View Post
    I understand there is a model release form that the model can sign to state that her photos are for commercial sale. I am wondering if there is a sample somewhere I can reference from?
    According to some "experts of the field" I was alleged to "brush off", it is not necessary. While I can't prove the necessity of the usage of a model release in Singapore (I live in the US), neither is there concrete proof that a model release is not applicable. I'd rather be safe than sorry. However, please check what they do for a living to ascertain what kind of "experts" they are before you embark. If you have doubts, always check with the right authority. Good luck.

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    Default Re: How much to pay model for commercial release?

    From a non-biz point of view... if it's a friend, especially a close one, 50-50 seems to be a pretty good idea

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    Default Re: How much to charge for commercial release?

    If intention to sell the photos on stock images, you will need model release from the model before the photos can be accepted for sales.

    Try review and googles model release forms.
    Think of concepts and work towards it.

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    Default Re: How much to charge for commercial release?

    Quote Originally Posted by sprintist View Post
    Actually the fee like you mention is subjective, if you're paying out of goodwill then its ok. Some or most model release will have already made known to the models that the pictures will be made commercially available. Most models are paid and hired specially for this commercial and stock photo purpose.

    If your friend is willing that their faces be sold on agreement then its a freewill thing, they just have to sign on the release form without you paying them. Of course if you want to pay its your own goodwill like mentioned, otherwise you can have an informal proposal of sharing half the sales amount their pictures can make

    Feel free to visit any stock photo websites and download their model release forms for a look
    In Singapore, there's no such thing as "personal rights".

    If you're selling your photos in Singapore, then you don't need to do any form of compensation, as any photos created solely belong to you. No model agreements required, PROVIDED your friend cannot prove that she asked you to do the shoot (i.e. she commissioned you to do the shoot, of which the photos will 100% belong to her).

    Of course, if you're selling your photos OVERSEAS, that's very different. If I'm don't remember wrongly, it was a french newspaper that first got sued and lost badly for using the random photo of a couple kissing in conjunction with an article on promiscuous behaviour that many OVERSEAS agencies in countries with privacy laws now require model releases.

    It's simply to allow the agencies do anything they want with the photos.
    Remember, warn your friend (if you're really a friend) about potential pitfalls of model releases for overseas use. If somehow or another your friend ends up on a porn site or something, or featured on a front page article talking about asians being more promiscuous, there'll be no way anything can be done.

    That's where limited release of rights come in...

    You just need to know who your clients are.

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