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Old 17th May 2003   #1
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Hi hi,

I am considering buying a 2nd hand Minolta AF24-105 f3.5-4.5 for SGD420. Do you guys feel that this price is reasonable, or am i better off buying a brand new one for $550, inclusive GST?

Thanks for any help.

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Old 17th May 2003   #2
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hmm, your name very familiar. which department did u serve during your national service?
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Education Dept? And you, ninelives?
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Education Dept? And you, ninelives?

same !!!! I am Andrew Lum !! lol, wat a small world ! So did you miss COL Tan You still got keep in touch with them? jeffey, gabriel, robert and so on.

Pertaining to your question , I suggest you get 1st hand , the price different is not very big leh(according to your post).

have you try Peninsular shopping center or plaza? You might able to find some 2nd hand minolta lenses there.

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Haha, yes I remember you, Andrew. It's been many many years!!!See how important it is to use real name.. old friends can recognise you!!!

Sigh I went ahead to buy the 24-105 from The Camera Workshop at Peninsula.. it looked as good as new, so I thought ok, I will save the $100+. But should have bargained more.. damn!

So you use Dynax 7? How do you like it? I am considering between it and the Dynax 5. I like the Dynax 7 for its 24mm flash coverage and better eye-relief and ability to forward roll to any frame you want, apart from that, I don't think there's any extra function that the Dynax 7 has over the Dynax 5, to justify the much higher cost and quite a bit heavier too. But of course, the black colour is cool... and I don't like the pop-up flash of the Dynax 5.

I'm not a serious photographer, just for travels etc.

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So you use Dynax 7? How do you like it?

formally i was using dynax 505si but I need something with mirror lock up, better built and verticle grib. I am more into close up(long range) photography. 505si cannot make it lor.
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Hi Ninelives.....

What do you mean by close up(long range) and 505si cannot make it???....

You mean you like doing close up at long distance????


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OMG!!!!! I know ninelives and Yinkhoon!!!


Just who I am from Cable Car Towers and Twin Towers Depot Road!!!
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OMG!!!!! I know ninelives and Yinkhoon!!!


Just who I am from Cable Car Towers and Twin Towers Depot Road!!!

java guru,

don't tell me u are chris??


sulhan ,

yup yup, at 300mm and above, 505 si shakes too much.

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Nope chao LCPL Lum. Give me 20 push up...-

Wana guess again? Yinkhoon can probably tell....<wink>

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don't tell me u are chris??

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Hmm.. the ability to scold Andrew Lum chao LCP and give push-ups means it's one of the old corporals from my batch. And with a nickname of Java Guru, that would point to either Andrew Teng or Lionel Siau or Gabriel. Andrew is not in Singapore, Gabriel has been MIA for ages, so my guess is that it's Lionel?
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Hmm.. the ability to scold Andrew Lum chao LCP and give push-ups means it's one of the old corporals from my batch. And with a nickname of Java Guru, that would point to either Andrew Teng or Lionel Siau or Gabriel. Andrew is not in Singapore, Gabriel has been MIA for ages, so my guess is that it's Lionel?
That's right chao CPL!!!!
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Lionel!!!!

Hey I see u have both the Tamron 28-200 XR and the Canon 28-105.. er a bit redundant? I was quite attracted to the Tamron too.. glorious range plus very small and lightweight in its latest rendition! But I feared the optical compromises plus light flare from such a zoom range, so decided to go for 24-105 Minolta. How does the Tamron perform in your assessment?

I am still staying with film photography for now, although I did buy a Canon Ixus 400 just for fun and pocket shots. Reckon that would satisfy me until digital SLR becomes more mature and to my liking (and cheaper). I have concerns about 1) limited body options 2) lack of wide angle lens 3) sensor dust 4) not as able to give shallow depth of field compared to film cameras.
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wat a small small world. you guys cannot reconize my avatar meh?

wat about a reunion tomorrow(got seed)?
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Hey I see u have both the Tamron 28-200 XR and the Canon 28-105.. er a bit redundant? I was quite attracted to the Tamron too.. glorious range plus very small and lightweight in its latest rendition! But I feared the optical compromises plus light flare from such a zoom range, so decided to go for 24-105 Minolta. How does the Tamron perform in your assessment?
When I can only carry one lense esp during travel, it is usu the Tamron 28-200. For 4R - 8Rs it does nicely without any issues.

The 28-105 is the classic lens. I use it for comparison shooting. Also my indoor lens together with a 16-35.

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I am still staying with film photography for now, although I did buy a Canon Ixus 400 just for fun and pocket shots. Reckon that would satisfy me until digital SLR becomes more mature and to my liking (and cheaper). I have concerns about 1) limited body options 2) lack of wide angle lens 3) sensor dust 4) not as able to give shallow depth of field compared to film cameras. [/b]
1. Limited bodies is true. But frankly Nikon or Canon is sufficient. They make the most lenses with the biggest ranges. Also, second hand market easy to find lenses.

2. Lack of WA. Very true...sigh.

3. Sensor dust. Not an issue. Your lens changing technique is just as important. U can also DIY cleaning the sensor.

4. shallow DOF. I don't understand, DOF is a function of F-stop and focal length. Nothing to do with a DSLR.
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wat a small small world. you guys cannot reconize my avatar meh?

wat about a reunion tomorrow(got seed)?
Can't make the seed. Perheps the next one.
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Lionel,

Given the same f-stop and focal length, a dslr will still give more depth of field compared to a 35mm film camera, because its sensor size is smaller, not full frame equivalent. So a 35mm film camera can still produce more blurred out background effect. But of course digital advantage is numerous too, you get great telephoto range (1.6x equivalent, I believe), you get to post process with Adobe Photoshop, adjust levels, remove red eye, etc, and you save on film processing as well as remove junk pictures.

Ninelives,

I am not free tomorrow.. although a gathering with you, Lionel, Jeffrey, Chia Vi and all the other guys sound good! What lens you using for Minolta system? Try out the 100-300 APO lens, it's light-weight (435 gm) and the optical quality is very good!
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Ninelives,

I am not free tomorrow.. although a gathering with you, Lionel, Jeffrey, Chia Vi and all the other guys sound good! What lens you using for Minolta system? Try out the 100-300 APO lens, it's light-weight (435 gm) and the optical quality is very good!
yeah, a gathering with them sounds cool. do u still have their contact?


I don't have Minolta lens, i have a tokina 28-70 and sigma 50-500.
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A 50-500mm lens is a monster to carry out and go shooting! Wow you have grown in strength since I last saw you haha.
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A 50-500mm lens is a monster to carry out and go shooting! Wow you have grown in strength since I last saw you haha.
yah, you alway bully me mah, I need to train up and revenge lor.
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