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    Best and most effective way is to master your own cameras controls fully, be it tuning white balance, exposure etc, end of the day whether you are saving in Jpeg or Raw, less time and effort will be needed to correct anything.

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    I guess this is a place where people who love RAW congregate
    Owell. Not that there isn't any merit to RAW I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chanjyj View Post
    I guess this is a place where people who love RAW congregate
    Owell. Not that there isn't any merit to RAW I guess.
    Dun worry there's nothing wrong with shooting jpeg
    I just find raw easier to post process

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    Quote Originally Posted by chanjyj View Post
    If you manage to shoot 1-2 stops off
    I really wonder what you are doing.. I would just re-shoot the picture on the spot
    I shoot insect macros... they dun give many second chances... if you miss it, they are gone...
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    That may be true, but they can be awfully slow. My usual practice is to grab all the files over to my processing folder, convert the ocr to dng, then look at the thumbnails. SQ jpg doesn't really take much space, but it sure does add a lot of convenience...like drag over to msn. haha

    Quote Originally Posted by zac08 View Post
    You dun even need to waste the space on your card to do so. There is a program called : PreviewExtractor. This extracts a jpeg format of your raw shots onto a seperate or the same folder (your choice) This will let you check on the pics before you decide which to work on.

    Also Adobe Bridge is another way to look thru all the raw files for conversion and further PP.

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    I think I better get outta here before I get by the RAW people
    (Maybe they need to be cooked)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chanjyj View Post
    I think I better get outta here before I get by the RAW people
    (Maybe they need to be cooked)
    Dun worry... to each their own...
    we're just trying to point out some of their merits.

    If I work for a print firm and I need action shots fast, I'd stick with jpeg too... But as it is, I'd still prefer more time and having the luxury of tweaking each file slowly on the PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redsun View Post
    Hi Antimony60 you can try shooting a pic in raw
    you'll see that its actually quite easy to tune the white balance
    i used to shoot Jpeg too
    But since trying out Raw,i've never looked back
    Do you preview the raw images on the camera's LCD screen and do the fine tune on the camera or ....? Pardon my ignorance. Thanks !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by antimony60 View Post
    Can share shrae your expertise in correcting exposures/white balance of the raw images? Sounds very interesting !!! Thanks Bro.
    If u use adobe bridge or lightroom, u can use the the controls to easy manipulate the exposures and WB. =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by antimony60 View Post
    Do you preview the raw images on the camera's LCD screen and do the fine tune on the camera or ....? Pardon my ignorance. Thanks !!
    You tune it back on the PC. There's a whole range of white balance prefix to choose from if the colour looks off from your AWB setting. Also, there is a custom white balance where you can click on a white or 18% grey area to set the white balance during the raw conversion stage.
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    Hi all,
    since the topic is about RAW vs JPEG, I just have a question.
    Just of of curiosity, I shot in RAW format recently at night.

    I use my trusty Adobe Photo 6.0 to open the file. Since the file was in RAW format, it was rather large, so I reduced the size to 500 px ( width ). I didn't touch any setting except to add a border ( and my name ) to the photo.

    In RAW it was pretty sharp. The dark skies was black.
    However when I converted and saved the picture in Jpeg format, I realized that the dark skies seems to lose its "darkness" even though I saved the JPEG is the MAX resolution. I could see some pixels in the dark skies. The rest of the colourful parts seems quite ok.

    I attached the picture to exemplify what I meant. Can anyone share their experience?
    Is there any "correct" way to convert and save file from RAW to JPEG?


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    RAW has more color data than JPEG, u lose some color data in the process of conversion.

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    usually i dun save the profile as sRGB when i convert to jpg. i did not check the box when i use adobe bridge to convert the photos via PS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xunjas View Post
    usually i dun save the profile as sRGB when i convert to jpg. i did not check the box when i use adobe bridge to convert the photos via PS.
    then what is your profile? ProPhoto or Adobe

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    I wonder if/when JPEG2000 is out with its benefits of lossless compression and 16-bit data range, will RAW vs JPEG discussions be unnecessary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjtune View Post
    I wonder if/when JPEG2000 is out with its benefits of lossless compression and 16-bit data range, will RAW vs JPEG discussions be unnecessary?
    no... the advantage that RAW has, in that it is a record of the readout off the sensor, is that colour conversion algorithms, demosaicing algorithms and white point has not been applied applied to the data yet... this would allow the user to adjust the colours of the image less destructively, and as well allow improvements in algorithm design/conversion programs to allow improvements in image resolution and colour production...

    these are advantages that RAW has even over tif which is also a lossless 16bit capable format...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chanjyj View Post
    then what is your profile? ProPhoto or Adobe
    No prophoto, i use bridge to convert from RAW to jpeg, leaving the sRGB profile unchecked, i din select other options. However, the color space of my cam is sRGB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xunjas View Post
    No prophoto, i use bridge to convert from RAW to jpeg, leaving the sRGB profile unchecked, i din select other options. However, the color space of my cam is sRGB.
    If you uncheck the sRGB profile, then the colour space is no longer sRGB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by antimony60 View Post
    Is it because photography is your bread and butter (no offence intended) ... just curious.
    When I shoot studio or for personal entertainment, I shoot in RAW.
    When I'm shooting for assignment/events/work/news, I shoot JPG.

    when the turnaround time is very short (imagine shooting at 5pm, photos required by 7pm), a working photog simply won't have the time to spend adjusting the individual settings one by one.

    When shooting for work, it's about spending less time for the best image, so shooting raw is out for most. If a photog still need raw to save exposures, he's not quite ready to shoot commercially, is he?

    Details wise.. raw only offer minimally more details, usually totally not noticable unless you print A4 size or A3 size.

    Colour vibrance, shouldn't be compared. It's only a matter of skill if you can't change it in jpgs.

    Personally I love the ability to do and finetune 30% of my editing in RAW, but that takes ALOT more time, but practically wise I'll still shoot JPG if and when I have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chanjyj View Post
    If you uncheck the sRGB profile, then the colour space is no longer sRGB?
    but profile should be not Adobe RGB.

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