Got my first MF body: big problem, shutter won't fire!

[Culés]

Just recently bought a (seemingly) very nice condition Rz-67 body and lens from a fellow cser recently. Have just been dry testing it so far.

Suddenly I get this problem: with the dark slide out, the R-M lever in the middle position, after cocking the lever to the max, I still can't release the shutter! The orange bulb lights up in the indicator. Funny thing, when I change the R-M lever to the M postion the shutter fires ok! also when I change the shutter to the emergency mode, it fires fine. Only when the shutter is in the normal (white dot) position, does it fail to fire. Any ideas? anything at all appreciated, really feel depressed after going through all the trouble to find this MF camera.

BTW, my first thought when I had this problem was to go and find a new battery. Did that, no change, same, I even tested the batt by putting in the dark slide and depressing shutter, red bulb lights up just as it says in the pdf manual.

[fastshot]

There is an interlock between the film holder and the RZ body so that if there is no film loaded or the film has gone past the last frame, the shutter will not fire.

The M position for multiple exposure will always allow the shutter to fire. Same for emergency mode.

[Culés]

Originally Posted by fastshot There is an interlock between the film holder and the RZ body so that if there is no film loaded or the film has gone past the last frame, the shutter will not fire. The M position for multiple exposure will always allow the shutter to fire. Same for emergency mode.

Many thanks for the reply

I could swear that I managed to fire the shutter before, in the middle postion, even though there was no film. Is it possible? I also removed the film back (as well as the lens) and tried to fire the shutter, still it would only fire in the M position or in emergency. I also did not find any reference in the Mamiya RZ manual if it would only fire if there is film inside.

Thanks in advance for sharing your knowledge.

[fastshot]

In the Mamiya RZ manual, under the "Troubleshooting" chapter, look under the Header:
"When the shutter cannot be released..."

[Culés]

Anyone ?

[Culés]

Originally Posted by fastshot In the Mamiya RZ manual, under the "Troubleshooting" chapter, look under the Header: "When the shutter cannot be released..."

I already did that, before posting. It's none of those.

What about what you were saying earlier, are you sure there is something like that? I mean, where does it say that the shutter wont fire when the film has not advanced? I find it quite hard to believe, TBH.

[fastshot]

Originally Posted by Culés I already did that, before posting. It's none of those. What about what you were saying earlier, are you sure there is something like that? I mean, where does it say that the shutter wont fire when the film has not advanced? I find it quite hard to believe, TBH.

From the Mamiya RZ manual:

When the shutter can not be released
1. Has the film been completely advanced to the first frame?
Have all the exposures already been made (10 with 120, 20 with
220)?

Just load in a cheap roll of film and try out instead of worrying/frustrating yourself that you may have gotten a lemon.

[Culés]

I will try it, thanks.

Originally Posted by fastshot From the Mamiya RZ manual: When the shutter can not be released 1. Has the film been completely advanced to the first frame? Have all the exposures already been made (10 with 120, 20 with 220)? Just load in a cheap roll of film and try out instead of worrying/frustrating yourself that you may have gotten a lemon.

[Spectrum]

Did the battery gone flat?

[sloth]

Originally Posted by fastshot Just load in a cheap roll of film and try out instead of worrying/frustrating yourself that you may have gotten a lemon.

One tip, hope some of you find it useful.....

Once you take the paper backing off a roll of 120 film, you can re-wind that paper back onto the reel and use it as a roll of 'dummy film'. I re-wound the paper off a couple of my reels to 'fire blanks' in my Pentax 645 for testing and other purposes.

[CAMERA23]

You need to load the film in order to fire the shutter.

[sim4nee]

Try to remove the film back totally and release.