S5pro VS D300???

[mactreouser]

Hi,

I almost crazy liao..haa..
Just wish to get more info from you guys about the comparison + and - on S5pro VS D300

Most of the user or thread mention about the S5pro VS D200 but seems nobody compare with D300...Is it because of the Apple and Orange??

These 2 days will wish to grab the S5pro...but still need to double confirm whether it's worth or not?!

Act,i own the 6500fd...ofcoz i like the Colour Tone and Dynamic of Satuation from 6500fd!!in another hand,i held Canon 10D and 40D for company purpose..

Lastly,I went and try out the S5pro..i feel that it's really awesome la..what the threads and some review mention are true..Dynamic Range and High ISO (even 3200) are really wonderful...But i wanna makesure that the Shooting In RAW,the system won't take a long second to save every shoot!!!!

So,need your opinion...Whether S5pro or D300???

[photobum]

Originally Posted by mactreouser Whether S5pro or D300???

Only you can answer this simple question.

Go to Cathay Photo or Alan Photo. Bring along laptop and a good CF card (such as a Sandisk Extreme III or IV). Shoot a few images on the camera's default setting. Open the images with your laptop. Look at all of them at 100%. Judge the colors, contrast, noise level and ask yourself which camera you like most. Then pay for that camera and ponder no more.

I have tested the D300 against my S5 Pro (at default setting), and I still prefer the latter. Don't ask me why. The D300 is just not suitable for my photography.

[soeypixels]

i think ur very particular about the speed.
then u should get the d300..

i am using s5 with 120x card .. i feel abit slow.
I used the same card during the nikon outing on the d300.
speed wise: d300 win hands down

but since I prefer to shoot people and wedding .. i don really mind about the speed in this case.

[Viewpoint]

The D300 is still fairly new, so don't expect too many comparisons. I've tried the D300 but don't own one. From the full size files people have posted on the Net, I must say that I am impressed. As far as I am concerned, many of the drawbacks of the D200 have been corrected -- the D200's noise problem is now taken care of, and AWB is improved too. Seems to me the S5 is much closer to the D300 than the D200. I am happy with the S5 and I think I should have no problems with the D300 as well. I think they are both excellent cameras -- probably better than me as a photographer.

Nonetheless, the S5 remains a niche camera (the F1, a, b, c modes are nice, and the ability to vary dynamic range is also a very useful feature to me). Of course, there is the famous Fuji colours too; if you like the Fuji colours, well...

[cheersjy]

It depends a lot on what u shoot - fast action shots like sports, performances, etc u will appreciate the speed of d300; Portrait, wedding or landscape wise you will love the colour and DR of fuji

Also, if you like to pixel peep and see the pictures 100% on your screen, fuji might disappoint as it generally produces softer images with less details (compared to d300). But i am fine with that

[photobum]

Originally Posted by Viewpoint Nonetheless, the S5 remains a niche camera (the F1, a, b, c modes are nice, and the ability to vary dynamic range is also a very useful feature to me). Of course, there is the famous Fuji colours too; if you like the Fuji colours, well...

That's right. The S5 Pro is a niche camera (many CSers don't seem to to understand the term 'niche camera') and it should NEVER be compared against cameras such as the D3, D300, E-3 or the 40D.

I will consider the closest contender to the S5 Pro is the Sony Alpha 700. But still, Fuji wins in terms of color.

[photobum]

If we compare DSLRs with Japanese cars, consider this:

Fuji Finepix S5 Pro = Toyota Camry 2.4L
Nikon D300 = Nissan 300Z

[Lmodel]

Originally Posted by photobum If we compare DSLRs with Japanese cars, consider this: Fuji Finepix S5 Pro = Toyota Camry 2.4L Nikon D300 = Nissan 300Z

Never heard of Nissan 300Z...

[Viewpoint]

I think some of the primary differences between the S5 and D300 are down to the following:

(a) resolution -- as some have commented, if you are the pixel peeping sort, or regularly print wall-size photos, get the D300.

(b) noise -- the S5 produces incredibly clean files; it can go down to ISO 100 (without any special setting), giving you absolutely beautiful noise-free files. This should not come as a surprise -- the huge S pixel photosites help a lot. From what i can see, the D300 is made differently -- it gives usable, low noise images at high ISOs; but apparently some are not so satisfied with its low ISO performance.

(c) speed -- no debate here, D300 is fast in every aspect. But having said that, I have never encountered a situation where I want to take a shot and the S5 is not ready to.

(d) colours and tonality -- my biased view is towards the S5. Nikon sensors have been prone to blown highights.

Finally, IMHO, DSLRs have come a long way and I believe most will do a very decent job. Conversely, none is perfect. Given the very high resolution and performance of today's cameras, I think what matters more are: (i) lenses -- high resolution cameras demand high quality lenses, (ii) technique -- don't expect good results from poor technique, and (iii) pay attention to the software as well -- different RAW converters can give different results; in other words, your RAW and PP knowhow can eliminate any small differences between the cameras! Finally, most cameras are very customisable nowadays, so feel free to change what you don't like. Eg, I dial in a minus one to offset the strong magenta cast of the S5.

Attached are a couple of shots taken with the S5 (105mm f2.5 and 50mm f1.4 lenses). With a good lens, I think the S5 is capable of delivering fantastic images -- and I don't think I have maxed out the capabilities of this camera yet.







Hope this helps.

[wlcling]

hijack thread.. hehe

any idea if there will be any replacement model for the s5pro... really interested in a body with good DR (since into landscapes)

[Lmodel]

I am hoping they come out with a FF version. haha

[RichardSeah]

I just bought the S5 Pro a month ago.

I did not have the chance to compare the S5 Pro vs D300 but after reading plenty reviews etc on the internet, the choice became very clear to me:

S5 Pro if you care about image quality - colours, dynamic range, noise control, accurate AWB, etc etc

D300 (or others) if you care about features - frames per second, focusing speed, etc.

I chose image quality. I so happy with my S5 Pro purchase that I have put up several web pages on it. See my website for more details.

I feel it is really great camera. Not many reviews / comparisons of the two but some are saying that the D300 is "approaching" image quality of S5 Pro. Well, approaching means near, but not yet there!

Hope this helps... ie helps you to choose the S5 Pro.

[mactreouser]

wow...wonderful man..i think Fuji user are really know their camera well and good description as well...

I'm now more understand into the S5 and D300 liao...I think i got the answ...why?!cause i tried the camera that day and what i felt is what you guys comments!!!haa...

And the 2 attachment above really Nice+Sharp and good colour tone!!!huh...

How slow is the S5??i'm still wondering here...but how fast is the D300??I'm still wondering...S5 maybe is not fast enough to shoot the spot but i think (just i guess) the D300 will not able to fight the speed of CANON...so,if gonna shoot the sports...then perhaps Canon is the choice...

[RichardSeah]

Originally Posted by photobum If we compare DSLRs with Japanese cars, consider this: Fuji Finepix S5 Pro = Toyota Camry 2.4L Nikon D300 = Nissan 300Z

Ha ha, reviewer Thom Hogan at www.bythom.com says:

Nikon D200 = Toyota Camry.
Fuji S5 Pro = Madza Miata

I did not know what was a Madza Miata when I read his review, but this comparison was a major influence in me choosing the S5 Pro in the end.

I guessed correctly, and have since confirmed, that the Miata is a nice sports car.

Hogan's message is this: D200 (and D300) is a good all round performer, S5 Pro cannot do everything, eg not good for sports, but it the things it can do, it really excels -- eg colours, dynamic range, AWB, noise control, etc.

[photobum]

Originally Posted by RichardSeah Ha ha, reviewer Thom Hogan at www.bythom.com says: Nikon D200 = Toyota Camry. Fuji S5 Pro = Madza Miata I did not know what was a Madza Miata when I read his review, but this comparison was a major influence in me choosing the S5 Pro in the end. I guessed correctly, and have since confirmed, that the Miata is a nice sports car. Hogan's message is this: D200 (and D300) is a good all round performer, S5 Pro cannot do everything, eg not good for sports, but it the things it can do, it really excels -- eg colours, dynamic range, AWB, noise control, etc.

The Mazda Miata is the American version of the Mazda MX5. It is a small two-seater car with very little leg room .

I disagree with Mr. Hogan. The Fuji S5 Pro 'feels' more like a family sedan than a sports car.

[photobum]

Originally Posted by Lmodel Never heard of Nissan 300Z...

OT here:
My bad.... It is Nissan 300ZX (a.k.a Nissan Fairlady Z).

[RichardSeah]

Originally Posted by photobum The Mazda Miata is the American version of the Mazda MX5. It is a small two-seater car with very little leg room . I disagree with Mr. Hogan. The Fuji S5 Pro 'feels' more like a family sedan than a sports car.

Actually the sports car comparison is ironical, because the one area that S5 does not perform well is SPEED, eg shooting speed, focusing speed, writing speed....

Anyway, that statement of his had caught my attention and made me want to check out th S5 more.

[Viewpoint]

FWIW, here is a (full size) sample pix from imaging-resource -- under harsh lighting conditions -- that do not show the D300 in very good light. Resolution is fantastic, but tonal transitions not so good lah.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PROD...D300OUTAP2.HTM

Judge for yourself.

[Nenjia]

Originally Posted by wlcling hijack thread.. hehe any idea if there will be any replacement model for the s5pro... really interested in a body with good DR (since into landscapes)

Fujifilm FinePix IS Pro
Announced 13-Jul-07

[RichardSeah]

Originally Posted by wlcling any idea if there will be any replacement model for the s5pro... really interested in a body with good DR (since into landscapes)

Of course there will be! But WHEN??

Based on Fuji's past track record of one new model in approx 3 years, earliest would probably be end-2008 / early-2009, but more likely 2009/2010.

Can wait? End of the world lai liao!