People with Canon Printers. Kindly need your advice

FLiNcHY · 13th May 2003

I previously used the i320 and just recently upgraded to the i850 for printing photos and stuff.

One problem i don't really understand is :

How do i print my photos exactly the way they look? Because every photo i print seems to have a large outer area cut off.

Like this is the original

http://www.pbase.com/image/16619325

When i print my image out, my borders get snipped off to this

http://www.pbase.com/image/16619328

I'm losing valuable information from my picture

How would i work around this?

Thanks!

roygoh · 13th May 2003

Moved thread to "Printers and Scanners".

Neo · 13th May 2003

If you want to print borderless mode, your image size MUST match the paper size. Becuase the A4 paper is 21 x 29.7 cm, so you must resize your image to that size.

Photoshop: Go to Image > Adjust > Image size

But because digital camera image is not same length and wideth as paper size, you will not get exactly that size. So you must set the shorter side of your image to 21cm or 29.7 cm, and the other side will be longer.

Then you must use set Canvas Size to "cut" the image down to the exact size of the paper.

Go to Image > Adjust > Canvas size

So the canvas size is exactly 21cm by 29.7 cm.

Then before you print, you must tick the Borderless printing ok, and you get perfect border-less print liao!

Hope you can understand what I saying...

Winston · 13th May 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by FLiNcHY
I previously used the i320 and just recently upgraded to the i850 for printing photos and stuff.

One problem i don't really understand is :

How do i print my photos exactly the way they look? Because every photo i print seems to have a large outer area cut off.

Like this is the original

http://www.pbase.com/image/16619325

When i print my image out, my borders get snipped off to this

http://www.pbase.com/image/16619328

I'm losing valuable information from my picture

How would i work around this?

Thanks!

What software are you using to print with?

MS Paint?

For Windows XP, the Pictures and Fax Viewer, you can choose to have the pictures, cropped for you or print it as it is, but with a white border on the top and bottom.

It is advisable to resize your pictures to the correct ratio, for example to print on a 4R print.

You need to resize the image such that the width-to-length ratio is 4:6 or 4x6.

for A4 size, it's about 7 x 10. (210mm x 297mm)

FLiNcHY · 13th May 2003

But if i resize my image, won't the image lose its 4 mega pixel ability?

Like i resize it down to 600x400 pixels

Then i might as well just take all my photos in 600x400 resolution instead of 2272x 1768

A picture of a higher resolution will come out alot nicer and have greater detail that if i resized it down to 6 by 4 inches right?

FLiNcHY · 13th May 2003

I want to pile all that 4 mega pixels into a 4r photo instead of just 600x400 pixels

So how do i do that?

A 4 megapixel pic is like 2.2 mb and a 600x400 picture is only like 500kb

erwinx · 13th May 2003

he means 'crop' to the correct ratio, not 'resize'

FLiNcHY · 14th May 2003

You're losing me here man

Won't cropping be cutting off parts of my image?

like 2272x1768 is my image size
I crop it down to 2000x1700

won't i lose the 272x68 pixels of the picture?

FLiNcHY · 14th May 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Neo
If you want to print borderless mode, your image size MUST match the paper size. Becuase the A4 paper is 21 x 29.7 cm, so you must resize your image to that size.

Photoshop: Go to Image > Adjust > Image size

But because digital camera image is not same length and wideth as paper size, you will not get exactly that size. So you must set the shorter side of your image to 21cm or 29.7 cm, and the other side will be longer.

Then you must use set Canvas Size to "cut" the image down to the exact size of the paper.

Go to Image > Adjust > Canvas size

So the canvas size is exactly 21cm by 29.7 cm.

Then before you print, you must tick the Borderless printing ok, and you get perfect border-less print liao!

Hope you can understand what I saying...

Ok once i resized my image to 6 inch by 4 inch, my canvas size is also automatically resized to that

I don't really get what you're talking abt

Neo · 14th May 2003

Err... how to say?

Let's say you open up an image, and it is 35cmx48cm at 72dpi. So you use Image Size to resize it to 300 dpi, and the size is now 22.4 x 32.7 cm.

You know that A4 is 21x29.7 cm, so you want to size the image to exactly that size. So you set the short side of the image to match A4 size at 21cm using Image Size... and then you find that the other side is longer than 29.7 cm.

So you can use Canvas Size to crop the image down to 29.7cm. So now you end up with an image that is 21x29.7cm at 300 dpi, which is the exact size of the paper.

Neo · 14th May 2003

I know it sounds confusing... I was confused until I saw the Canon staff demonstrating the PhotoShop also...

BUT... they also shows me a nice little trick that I am still very amazing until now... it is call EASY PHOTO-PRINT!

It is a software that come with new Canon printers, so your i850 should have it also. Otherwise you can downloaded it from here:

http://www.canon-asia.com/downloads/exif.html

Once you try it, you don't want to use Photoshop to mass print your photos! Heheheheee...

It is very easy to use (that's why it call EasyPhotoPrint right?).

1) Just click on the folder with your photos, and then the programme will show all your photos in thumbnail size on the screen.
2) Then you click on the photos that you want. Click more times if you want to print more copies. Damn easy!
3) Then on the next screen you click on the icon to select the paper size and type of paper (eg. plain paper, PPP or MP).
4) The next part is the best... you can choose to print border or borderless, full page, 2-photo-in-1-page, 4-photo-in-1-page or even the thumbnail of all the images to keep as reference. Shiok right?

This is one of the best programme I ever see for printing photos automatically. Because it also support the YCC colour space, the photos from your digital camera will also look very good. I think all Canon Bubble Jet owners must download this free program to try! Somemore the results are very good... no need to headache the resizing image...

Anybody else try EasyPhotoPrint before?

darr · 21st May 2003

Resizing the canvas size or using those auto-sizing program would add/reduce dimensions all round.

I prefer to see first-hand what I will be printing.

This is what i do in Photoshop, simple 2-step process, can use for any other program supporting layers.

1. Create a new image sized to the actual paper size (set your desired DPI, use RGB or CMYK depending on what your printer use for photo printing)

2. Open your image, select the whole image, copy it, paste into the new image. It will become a new layer, now just mouse your image around to select what you want to be in the print.

13th May 2003	#1
FLiNcHY Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 621	People with Canon Printers. Kindly need your advice I previously used the i320 and just recently upgraded to the i850 for printing photos and stuff. One problem i don't really understand is : How do i print my photos exactly the way they look? Because every photo i print seems to have a large outer area cut off. Like this is the original http://www.pbase.com/image/16619325 When i print my image out, my borders get snipped off to this http://www.pbase.com/image/16619328 I'm losing valuable information from my picture How would i work around this? Thanks!

13th May 2003	#2
roygoh Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Northwest Posts: 5,042	Moved thread to "Printers and Scanners". __________________ As complexity rises, precise statements lose meaning and meaningful statements lose precision.

13th May 2003	#3
Neo Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 947	If you want to print borderless mode, your image size MUST match the paper size. Becuase the A4 paper is 21 x 29.7 cm, so you must resize your image to that size. Photoshop: Go to Image > Adjust > Image size But because digital camera image is not same length and wideth as paper size, you will not get exactly that size. So you must set the shorter side of your image to 21cm or 29.7 cm, and the other side will be longer. Then you must use set Canvas Size to "cut" the image down to the exact size of the paper. Go to Image > Adjust > Canvas size So the canvas size is exactly 21cm by 29.7 cm. Then before you print, you must tick the Borderless printing ok, and you get perfect border-less print liao! Hope you can understand what I saying...

13th May 2003	#7
erwinx Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,492	he means 'crop' to the correct ratio, not 'resize'

14th May 2003	#8
FLiNcHY Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 621	You're losing me here man Won't cropping be cutting off parts of my image? like 2272x1768 is my image size I crop it down to 2000x1700 won't i lose the 272x68 pixels of the picture?

21st May 2003	#12
darr Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hill View Posts: 295	Resizing the canvas size or using those auto-sizing program would add/reduce dimensions all round. I prefer to see first-hand what I will be printing. This is what i do in Photoshop, simple 2-step process, can use for any other program supporting layers. 1. Create a new image sized to the actual paper size (set your desired DPI, use RGB or CMYK depending on what your printer use for photo printing) 2. Open your image, select the whole image, copy it, paste into the new image. It will become a new layer, now just mouse your image around to select what you want to be in the print.