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    Default The 70-200mm range lens.

    Most manufacturers e.g. Nikon, Canon, Sony make a large 70-200 f2.8 lens. Might be a silly qn for some but I am curious to find out what people use these lenses for.

    I know some people use these lenses for outdoor portraits/events (you have to stand pretty far away because of the min focussing range, wouldnt a 85/100mm be better?), and some people use them for nature (200mm is too short to shoot the majority of wildlife/birds I feel..) and some people for indoor sports e.g. basketball, badminton (seems like its too short for outdoor sports like football, tennis, golf). This lens is not a typical lens people carry for travel as its heavy, and wide angles are typically preferred and its a tough lens to use for street shooting because of its size. Indoor shots would not work well unless you have a big space to work with because of the min focussing limit and it will probably lose out to the f1.8 lenses as these are a full stop faster.

    So what do people usually use these types of lenses for? Thanks for any comments..

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    Default Re: The 70-200mm range lens.

    I use it mainly to shoot events. It has a distance that is far enough to reach without people knowing that obviously you are shooting them. Because it is a fast lens, I seldon use flash in indoor events shoots that have adequate lighting for f/2.8.

    I personally find that having a zoom lens is more versatile in events as some places may have a restriction of space and may not have the correct distance to shoot if using a prime. Having said that, I am trying to experiment shooting an event with a prime though

    Actually, in a 1.5/1.6 crop factor camera, it actually has a reach of about 105-300mm for a 70-200mm lens... which is quite good.
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    My 70-200 is dedicated for events and some portraiture.
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    Default Re: The 70-200mm range lens.

    anything... from landscape to wildlife

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    the minimum focusing distance for the canon 70200 f/2.8 is 1.3m. i think its not far for portraits unless you like to get upclose with your models. and the lens will cover the usual portrait focal lengths like 85 and 135. and it has IS which none of the primes has.

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    actually, the lens is good for indoor as well. since length is what you have, you can shoot discreetly for the candids.

    dont be limited by your thoughts. =)

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    Im pondering whether to get the 70-200mm F/4 L USM.
    Not sure if i be using that range or sticking to WA

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    Quote Originally Posted by ceecookie View Post
    Im pondering whether to get the 70-200mm F/4 L USM.
    Not sure if i be using that range or sticking to WA
    It really depends on what u need. I suggest a wide and a tele.
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    well, not sure am i right. here's my point.
    it's f2.8 is the largest a tele zoom lens can archives,it's impossible to get f1.8. and it was all the way from 70-200.
    in these case, you call it a fast lens. the focal length is about from 1m-1.3m is resonable to me as it has already zoom in much enough, unless you want to shoot macro.
    people use this lens for event both indoor and outdoor, sports, street shot, portraiture and wildlife. hardly landscape due to the limit of 70mm, normally landscape use 11-28mm range lens. eventually, there are people walks the world with only this lens.
    these lens are not normal zoom lens, they usually are the tip top lens of their company. they are better coated,which provides better image(sharpness,colours, ect...)they are far more faster cause they have better focus system which only use by this type of tip top lens, and they have f2.8 thought out the whole distance from 70-200mm which normal lens has only f3.5 to f6.5 and normal lens will have smaller ampreture as you zooms more. eg.at 170-200mm you might only be allowed to use f6.5 and f3.5 might be able to mantain only from 70-85mm only. you not counter this problem on a 70-200f2.8. this is also why a 70-200mmf2.8 lens so expansive. big ampreture of f2.8, better coating and faster AF system.
    as a bobbylist, this is also a light weight lens which we are able to move it around with it. even if there is a 70-300mm let's say, the pic produce comfirm lose out and how heavy will it be?
    ok, that's my point of view. please correct me if anything above are wrong. and forgive me for typing so long and hard to understand, hope it's readable.
    i want to take great photos!!!

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    the bigger the aperture, the more expensive the lens... 85mm f/1.2 cost 3.6K SGD.. Imagine 70-200mm f/1.8L IS USM.. perhaps some 1 can give an estimated pricing such a lens.. the lens elements for L lens would add higher costs to the lens as well. Bigger aperture and L lens elements and

    The companies provide affordable zoom lenses as well, they do have have a fix f/4 or f/2.8 aperture and probably use affordable lens elements as well...

    Specs of such lenses are to marketing strategy by the company.. Different lens specs for different groups of photographers who have different needs and budget..

    70-300 can shoot gd image quality photos.. 70-200mm f/2.8 or f/4 can shoot even higher better quality photos in terms of saturation, contrast, detail and background blur compared to affordable zooms.. =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by xunjas View Post
    the bigger the aperture, the more expensive the lens... 85mm f/1.2 cost 3.6K SGD.. Imagine 70-200mm f/1.8L IS USM.. perhaps some 1 can give an estimated pricing such a lens.. the lens elements for L lens would add higher costs to the lens as well. Bigger aperture and L lens elements and

    The companies provide affordable zoom lenses as well, they do have have a fix f/4 or f/2.8 aperture and probably use affordable lens elements as well...

    Specs of such lenses are to marketing strategy by the company.. Different lens specs for different groups of photographers who have different needs and budget..

    70-300 can shoot gd image quality photos.. 70-200mm f/2.8 or f/4 can shoot even higher better quality photos in terms of saturation, contrast, detail and background blur compared to affordable zooms.. =)
    For the 70-200 and any zooms, max is f/2.8 as i believe it's hard and very costly to produce anything below that aperture and the size will also be affected, same with costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoweagle View Post
    For the 70-200 and any zooms, max is f/2.8 as i believe it's hard and very costly to produce anything below that aperture and the size will also be affected, same with costs.
    if companies can produce bigger apertures zoom for 70-200mm, they would have done it also..

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    Quote Originally Posted by xunjas View Post
    if companies can produce bigger apertures zoom for 70-200mm, they would have done it also..
    actually the can... its just that the market segment is pathetic... if they can produce something like 200-500 f4, i don see why they can't do that for a 70-200 f2, just that no 1 would probably buy or carry it because its just not practical...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xunjas View Post
    if companies can produce bigger apertures zoom for 70-200mm, they would have done it also..
    They can, but wouldn't cos it may not be viable in the market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExplorerZ View Post
    actually the can... its just that the market segment is pathetic... if they can produce something like 200-500 f4, i don see why they can't do that for a 70-200 f2, just that no 1 would probably buy or carry it because its just not practical...
    Sigma already has the 200-500 f/2.8 and it's a real monster of a lens which i saw with my own eyes during the recent Imaging Expo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoweagle View Post
    Sigma already has the 200-500 f/2.8 and it's a real monster of a lens which i saw with my own eyes during the recent Imaging Expo.
    actually wanted to type f2.8 but was thinking of CZ 1700mm f4 for MF at the point of time.. thats a real beast weighting 256kg iirc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExplorerZ View Post
    actually the can... its just that the market segment is pathetic... if they can produce something like 200-500 f4, i don see why they can't do that for a 70-200 f2, just that no 1 would probably buy or carry it because its just not practical...
    Quote Originally Posted by Snoweagle View Post
    They can, but wouldn't cos it may not be viable in the market.
    probably the profits aint enough to sustain the production 70-200mm f/2 lens.. 70-200 f/2.8 would be more affordable and can cater to more people. =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExplorerZ View Post
    actually wanted to type f2.8 but was thinking of CZ 1700mm f4 for MF at the point of time.. thats a real beast weighting 256kg iirc...
    white whale...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExplorerZ View Post
    actually wanted to type f2.8 but was thinking of CZ 1700mm f4 for MF at the point of time.. thats a real beast weighting 256kg iirc...
    Second to that is Leica's 1600mm APO f/5.6. Imagine how much it'll cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xunjas View Post
    probably the profits aint enough to sustain the production 70-200mm f/2 lens.. 70-200 f/2.8 would be more affordable and can cater to more people. =)
    In fact the 70-200 series of Canon's L zooms are the most popular.
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