What DSLR body fits the bill at $1500?

[dukebluedevil]

Requirements

Minimum 4mp
Good noise control
5fps
Something big enough for my large hands
new/2nd hand doesnt matter

Interests are firstly portraits, events and may try out sports shooting.

I'm not fussy about having the latest and the greatest, kinda realise some old bodies still out perform the new ones at the same current price point. Havent invested too much in either of the big two systems so still can switch.

[boredphuck]

canon 30D

[F5user]

Originally Posted by dukebluedevil Requirements Minimum 4mp Good noise control 5fps Something big enough for my large hands new/2nd hand doesnt matter Interests are firstly portraits, events and may try out sports shooting. I'm not fussy about having the latest and the greatest, kinda realise some old bodies still out perform the new ones at the same current price point. Havent invested too much in either of the big two systems so still can switch.

1d mk 1.

beautiful out of camera jpgs, reasonable noise control. keeper...

[ceecookie]

Originally Posted by F5user 1d mk 1. beautiful out of camera jpgs, reasonable noise control. keeper...

Not ideal if u want to enlarge ur pics to A4 size.Artifacts is present on that size

[lsisaxon]

Originally Posted by dukebluedevil Requirements Minimum 4mp Good noise control 5fps Something big enough for my large hands new/2nd hand doesnt matter Interests are firstly portraits, events and may try out sports shooting. I'm not fussy about having the latest and the greatest, kinda realise some old bodies still out perform the new ones at the same current price point. Havent invested too much in either of the big two systems so still can switch.

Is 5fps important? Otherwise you have many choices!!

[dukebluedevil]

Originally Posted by lsisaxon Is 5fps important? Otherwise you have many choices!!

5fps would be nice for sports, methinks!

[Yatlapball]

2nd hand D2H... maybe slightly over your budget. But it's all good...

[night86mare]

5fps.. gg no re

if not, honestly, k100d would be sooo sweet

[alternatve]

Originally Posted by dukebluedevil Requirements Minimum 4mp Good noise control 5fps Something big enough for my large hands new/2nd hand doesnt matter Interests are firstly portraits, events and may try out sports shooting. I'm not fussy about having the latest and the greatest, kinda realise some old bodies still out perform the new ones at the same current price point. Havent invested too much in either of the big two systems so still can switch.

Why do you need 5 FPS? I shot a sports event before with a 3 FPS camera and I didn't even use the multi shot function. The trick is to make every shot count, not take "videos".

Samuel

[F5user]

Originally Posted by ceecookie Not ideal if u want to enlarge ur pics to A4 size.Artifacts is present on that size

go read up more on that camera or perhaps look at how you pp. I've been working with the mk1 for over 7 years with prints up to 20x24. No artifacts whatsoever, excellent ooc colour, one of the best sensors in the 1 series, and hey.. it's fast.


Perhaps we come from a different era where we were printing A1s from the .8 mp DCS Mutant F5s, but I really don't want to get into another mp discussion here. Please.... artifacts present at A4 from a 4mp???

[ceecookie]

Originally Posted by F5user go read up more on that camera or perhaps look at how you pp. I've been working with the mk1 for over 7 years with prints up to 20x24. No artifacts whatsoever, excellent ooc colour, one of the best sensors in the 1 series, and hey.. it's fast. Perhaps we come from a different era where we were printing A1s from the .8 mp DCS Mutant F5s, but I really don't want to get into another mp discussion here. Please.... artifacts present at A4 from a 4mp???

My school(as usual with schs) hired A**m Photos to take photos of the Sec 2 and Sec 4 classes.The formal and informal shots was done with an EOS 1D Mark I and the closeup,a 5D.
I bought A4 sizes of the photos from the 1D Mark I and its not really sharp with some blur-like artifact(the one when u resize larger too much).

[scrappy]

Originally Posted by alternatve Why do you need 5 FPS? I shot a sports event before with a 3 FPS camera and I didn't even use the multi shot function. The trick is to make every shot count, not take "videos". Samuel

Well, when it comes to sports, shooting in burst mode increases your chances of getting "that moment", so a higher fps definitely helps. Digital allows you to shoot as much as you want with little penalty, so might as well make full use of it!

That said, I'd say go for the 2nd hand 30D (and have a few hundred to spare, maybe for lenses or a batt grip), or up your budget a little and go for a 40D. 5fps, good noise control, slow shutter lag, etc. etc... of course this is just from the Canon camp.

P.s. dukeblue, you aren't a cyclist...from togoparts, are you?

[F5user]

Originally Posted by ceecookie My school(as usual with schs) hired A**m Photos to take photos of the Sec 2 and Sec 4 classes.The formal and informal shots was done with an EOS 1D Mark I and the closeup,a 5D. I bought A4 sizes of the photos from the 1D Mark I and its not really sharp with some blur-like artifact(the one when u resize larger too much).

exactly, just as i thought. Why don't you use it, do your own work with it, and THEN comment on it.

Ask around for people that clearly know how to work with the camera, and trust me, the raws go well beyond A4.

btw, there are many more factors other than 4mp etc etc that would cause pictures to be
"not really sharp with some blur-like artifact" (sic)


To the TS, the 30d seems to be a good choice now (seeing how ppl are dumping it). Or even a 2nd hand d200 at the moment. =)

[dukebluedevil]

Originally Posted by scrappy Well, when it comes to sports, shooting in burst mode increases your chances of getting "that moment", so a higher fps definitely helps. Digital allows you to shoot as much as you want with little penalty, so might as well make full use of it! That said, I'd say go for the 2nd hand 30D (and have a few hundred to spare, maybe for lenses or a batt grip), or up your budget a little and go for a 40D. 5fps, good noise control, slow shutter lag, etc. etc... of course this is just from the Canon camp. P.s. dukeblue, you aren't a cyclist...from togoparts, are you?

yes I am! But recently have to withdraw from the sport due to some hand injury. That's why I've been selling so much of my gear on TGP. Just keeping my singlespeed 26" cruiser. what's your handle in TGP?

[ceecookie]

Originally Posted by F5user exactly, just as i thought. Why don't you use it, do your own work with it, and THEN comment on it. Ask around for people that clearly know how to work with the camera, and trust me, the raws go well beyond A4. btw, there are many more factors other than 4mp etc etc that would cause pictures to be "not really sharp with some blur-like artifact" (sic) To the TS, the 30d seems to be a good choice now (seeing how ppl are dumping it). Or even a 2nd hand d200 at the moment. =)

Ok.Then i apologise for my lack of experience.Maybe in future than i can comment on when i have the experience
About the 30D and 20D,yes i have an intended package in mind and about to confirm buying.Thanks for ur advice.

[F5user]

Originally Posted by ceecookie Ok.Then i apologise for my lack of experience.Maybe in future than i can comment on when i have the experience About the 30D and 20D,yes i have an intended package in mind and about to confirm buying.Thanks for ur advice.

No worries.... and good luck on your search. =)

any shops in mind apart from the classifieds section here?

[ceecookie]

Originally Posted by F5user No worries.... and good luck on your search. =) any shops in mind apart from the classifieds section here?

None so far,i didnt see any shops around my area selling 2nd hand cams.
I think buying from users are better since they dont jack up the price so much for profit

[dukebluedevil]

the pentax k10d seems to be really good value. I wonder if 3fps would really affect my shooting. need to try someone's out.

[tchoonyong]

Originally Posted by alternatve Why do you need 5 FPS? I shot a sports event before with a 3 FPS camera and I didn't even use the multi shot function. The trick is to make every shot count, not take "videos". Samuel

Agreed. i will suggests for him to get sony DSLR A100 during this upcoming sony promotions soon to be out of the market even as a 3fps camera it is quite fast. I am able to shoot nice pics with it. Getting a 5fps camera with the price budget he have is hard to find a first hand camera but a second hand.

[boredphuck]

Originally Posted by dukebluedevil the pentax k10d seems to be really good value. I wonder if 3fps would really affect my shooting. need to try someone's out.

the k10 is a good buy but i think the af will not be fast enough for your needs. if u gonna shoot sports, canon is the way to go. unless u wanna splurge and get the d300 or d3.