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    Default How to take good night photo shoot

    Below are the sample pictures

    SAMPLE A
    Canon Powershot, 1/60sec, f/2.8, 7.1mm, Flash fired, Auto Mode(3)


    SAMPLE B
    EOS350D, 1/15, f/1.8, ISO1600, 50mm, Flashfired, Compulsory flash firing(1)


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    Sample A : The background is dark
    Sample B : The background is bright, but not focus due to f/1.8

    Please advice how to take this type of picture at night, with good focus both object and background.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blomqvist View Post
    Below are the sample pictures

    SAMPLE A
    Canon Powershot, 1/60sec, f/2.8, 7.1mm, Flash fired, Auto Mode(3)


    SAMPLE B
    EOS350D, 1/15, f/1.8, ISO1600, 50mm, Flashfired, Compulsory flash firing(1)


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    Sample A : The background is dark
    Sample B : The background is bright, but not focus due to f/1.8

    Please advice how to take this type of picture at night, with good focus both object and background.
    Take 2 shots... one for the scenery and one with the flash and combine them together...

    Seriously, what you'd need is a rear sync flash mode. Meter for the ambient lighting, allow for a long shutter shot and at the end of the shot, the rear sync flash should provide for the lighting of the subject nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zac08 View Post
    Seriously, what you'd need is a rear sync flash mode. Meter for the ambient lighting, allow for a long shutter shot and at the end of the shot, the rear sync flash should provide for the lighting of the subject nicely.
    Bro...Can you please explain more on the 'rear sync flash mode'?
    I catch no ball.
    How can i do this setting in my EOS350? What type of flash that I need?
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    what do u mean by good exposure for the background? Sample b? with sharper back ground?
    It's generally harder to shoot with well exposed background at night unless u used a tripod.
    Use a longer shutter speed to get more ambient light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blomqvist View Post
    Bro...Can you please explain more on the 'rear sync flash mode'?
    I catch no ball.
    How can i do this setting in my EOS350? What type of flash that I need?
    This is a flash mode. I'm not a Canon user, so I'm not able to tell you how to achieve this step by step. But if you can locate this mode, try it out. You should be able to use this mode either with the on-board flash or an external one.
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    Thanks Bro....appreciate your advice.

    To canon user, anybody can advice me on how to set "rear flash mode"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blomqvist View Post
    Bro...Can you please explain more on the 'rear sync flash mode'?
    I catch no ball.
    How can i do this setting in my EOS350? What type of flash that I need?
    first, you should use a small apature (big value) to get deep depth of field, so that your subject and your background is within the focus range. in that case, your shutter will need to be long opened to gain enough light for the background (and foreground). then you will need the flash to capture the subject in focus. to do all this, you need that rear sync flash and you also need a tripod.

    you should be able to switch on that feature at your custom setting (or try to find flash sync mode from your manual), or you can try the pre-set night potrait mode provided in your 350D dial. I am using 400D. basically, your flash will fire twise, one right at the begining and another right before the shutter closed. the second flash to to capture the subject i focus. you will need to tell your subject to stay still until the second flash fires. but you might still see that there are some shadow around our subject due to the slight movement, unless your could subject stay very still.

    hope it helps.
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    bro draccoyap,...so can I say 'rear flash mode' = preset night mode ?

    instead of using preset night mode that provided by camera itself, is there any manual way or configuration to set ?
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    Default Re: How to take good night photo shoot

    rear sync is in the custom function menu
    you can meter for the ambient background and then fire off
    the background will be exposed nicely and the flash will light up the subject

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redsun View Post
    rear sync is in the custom function menu
    you can meter for the ambient background and then fire off
    the background will be exposed nicely and the flash will light up the subject
    Sorry, bro Redsun. i am slow learner.
    I still didnt get how to set it.

    Can derive it briefly for me ?....thanks a lot
    1. what do you mean " meter the ambient backgorund and fire off " ?
    2. custom fuction menu ??...under which saction,...(please help me derive step by step)

    Sorry...to bother,....thanks a lot a lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by blomqvist View Post
    Sorry, bro Redsun. i am slow learner.
    I still didnt get how to set it.

    Can derive it briefly for me ?....thanks a lot
    1. what do you mean " meter the ambient backgorund and fire off " ?
    2. custom fuction menu ??...under which saction,...(please help me derive step by step)

    Sorry...to bother,....thanks a lot a lot
    u want explaination for ur powershot or 350D?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redsun View Post
    rear sync is in the custom function menu
    you can meter for the ambient background and then fire off
    the background will be exposed nicely and the flash will light up the subject
    does 350 has rear curtain sync?

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    rear curtain sync it is not necessary, unless you want to have movement effect during exposure making.

    slow sync it is the proper mode to use for this situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    rear curtain sync it is not necessary, unless you want to have movement effect during exposure making.

    slow sync it is the proper mode to use for this situation.
    bro..no rear and slow sync mode for 350D..
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    Reduce the ISO, increase the f-stop, use a tripod and tell the subject to stay still!
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    Quote Originally Posted by blazer_workz View Post
    bro..no rear and slow sync mode for 350D..
    i read the 350D manual,...i cannot find something about 'slow sync mode'.
    is it can be set from "flash exposure compensation" ???...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgo View Post
    Reduce the ISO, increase the f-stop, use a tripod and tell the subject to stay still!
    Bro...i have tried this.
    Even if I increase the f-stop, I have to reduce my shutter.
    Reducing the shutter to 10", i think the subject will not be able to smile and still for 10" without having a minor movement, resulting the subject will not sharp.
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    Default Re: How to take good night photo shoot

    you can try using a higher iso say,maybe 800?
    frame the background and half press the shutter,this shutter speed will expose the background correctly.with the shutter half pressed,lock exposure by pressing the * button
    get your subject in the frame and shoot normally..
    this should work....i think

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    Default Re: How to take good night photo shoot

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsun View Post
    you can try using a higher iso say,maybe 800?
    frame the background and half press the shutter,this shutter speed will expose the background correctly.with the shutter half pressed,lock exposure by pressing the * button
    get your subject in the frame and shoot normally..
    this should work....i think
    Thanks bro...
    in this situation,...what is the appropriate setting?
    What is the shutter and f -stop that we can consider?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blomqvist View Post
    i read the 350D manual,...i cannot find something about 'slow sync mode'.
    is it can be set from "flash exposure compensation" ???...
    yah 350D and ur powershot no rear and slow sync mode..
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