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    Default Re: B+W filters: worth paying so much?

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
    If you think cleaning a B+W filter is easy, try cleaning a Hoya HD. I was shocked for good when I try cleaning it today... it is easier than easy....

    Last, I prefer the metal rim/screw on the HOya HD than BW as it is much smoother, hence making screwing in/out easier ()!

    Price wise, I paid $140 bucks for a 77mm Hoya HD UV; when the BW UV Haze and clear is selling for $130 and $150 respectively...

    Just a token of my thoughts after my good experience with Hoya HD... To me its 90% perfect (10% imperfect for its cost!)
    I paid $130 for 67mm Hoya HD UV. Bought it from AP Funan. Price comparison is subjective. But i can't agree more on the cleaning and the clarity. Has been on my lens eversince. Yes, price may have been on the high side but have no regrets

    Would recommend to anyone who needs a HOYA filter.
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    I do wish they make a special B+W filter for 14-24mm..
    The lens feels so naked and vulnerable without a filter
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    Quote Originally Posted by reanimator View Post
    I do wish they make a special B+W filter for 14-24mm..
    The lens feels so naked and vulnerable without a filter
    Well there are filters available, made and designed around this specific lens' protruding issue, but it makes it even more bulky and it cost a bomb!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sjackal View Post
    Well there are filters available, made and designed around this specific lens' protruding issue, but it makes it even more bulky and it cost a bomb!
    Are you refering to cokin external filter system? Do you know where they sell Cokin's X-PRO Series? The biggest ive seen so far is the P Series. Which is not big enough for the wide scope of the Nikon's 14-24mm.
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    Default Re: B+W filters: worth paying so much?

    Quote Originally Posted by reanimator View Post
    Are you refering to cokin external filter system? Do you know where they sell Cokin's X-PRO Series? The biggest ive seen so far is the P Series. Which is not big enough for the wide scope of the Nikon's 14-24mm.
    I think even a X-PRO Series is not big enough if you are shooting at the widest angle with a full frame DSLR. Hmmm....
    Anyway, off topic already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reanimator View Post
    Are you refering to cokin external filter system? Do you know where they sell Cokin's X-PRO Series? The biggest ive seen so far is the P Series. Which is not big enough for the wide scope of the Nikon's 14-24mm.
    Quote Originally Posted by Spectrum View Post
    I think even a X-PRO Series is not big enough if you are shooting at the widest angle with a full frame DSLR. Hmmm....
    Anyway, off topic already.
    Must order from US.

    http://www.adorama.com/CKXP164KNK.ht...42135494330238

    Or if anything probably Cathay is the most probable dealer to bring in.

    But I dont think there will be a demand, given the high price for a small purpose.

    Yes, on fulll frame under 18mm it will vignette.
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    Default Re: B+W filters: worth paying so much?

    Unless, there's filter which is made in an arc-shaped kindda just like the front lens element of the 14-24mm. And diameter almost as wide as 16cm plus a unique ring that can hold it firm onto the lens that can also be tilt upwards & downwards or any angle to a certain degree. Anyway, this will not happen at all.
    Last edited by Spectrum; 7th July 2009 at 12:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectrum View Post
    Unless, there's filter which is made in an arc-shaped kindda just like the front lens element of the 14-24mm. And diameter almost as wide as 16cm plus a unique ring that can hold it firm onto the lens that can also be tilt upwards & downwards or any angle to a certain degree. Anyway, this will not happen at all.
    I just use mine without filters. If need filters a better option is the 17-35.
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    Default Re: B+W filters: worth paying so much?

    i haven't tried B+W filters before, but my logic is, if you scratched your lousy hoya, just throw away lor..no worries what...with one B+W, you can go thru a few hoyas..haha.

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    Try Hoya HD, their new filter. Very tough, very easy to clean & 99% ++ light transmission. Multi-coated of course. Cost between Hoya Pro 1 and B+W.

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    Default Re: B+W filters: worth paying so much?

    The question kind of confused me. Need to know what "Basic" means. If I read it right, basic means uncoated, or single coated. The uncoated one is not good. But I feel the HMC is pretty good for the cash. I saw the demo for the HD filters, but honestly, I think it is way too expensive. I take care of my lenses, I have filters on for extra protection but I seldom need to clean my filters or lens. And when I do, I make sure I use a blower first, not not apply too much strength to actually cause scratches. FYI, I am mostly using Kenko Pro 1 Digial clear protectors.

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    Default Re: B+W filters: worth paying so much?

    BTW, not to offend anyone. But I have heard reports online that Hoya HD C-PL comes apart easily. The HD glass did not break, but the rings and everything came apart within months of use.

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    Question Re: B+W filters: worth paying so much?

    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    ...But I have heard reports online that Hoya HD C-PL comes apart easily...
    Source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    BTW, not to offend anyone. But I have heard reports online that Hoya HD C-PL comes apart easily. The HD glass did not break, but the rings and everything came apart within months of use.
    Maybe due to frequent putting on and off, or frequent hard wiping (pressing down on the glass when wiping).

    I use the UV ones, so when put on, it stays there.
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    Default Re: B+W filters: worth paying so much?

    Quote Originally Posted by ralliart12 View Post
    Source?
    All over flickr groups and amazon and some other sites. You can google. Seems specific to the Hoya HD C-PL only.

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    Default Re: B+W filters: worth paying so much?

    Quote Originally Posted by sjackal View Post
    Maybe due to frequent putting on and off, or frequent hard wiping (pressing down on the glass when wiping).

    I use the UV ones, so when put on, it stays there.
    The reports are specific to C-PL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    All over flickr groups and amazon and some other sites. You can google. Seems specific to the Hoya HD C-PL only.
    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    The reports are specific to C-PL.
    Yes, I read too. Thanx for the heads up.

    QC problem on their top range, not very good rep for Hoya...
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    Default Re: B+W filters: worth paying so much?

    Hoya is from Tokina right?

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    Default Re: B+W filters: worth paying so much?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spectrum View Post
    Hoya is from Tokina right?
    Hoya filters are contract manufactured by Tokina using Hoya glass.

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    Default Re: B+W filters: worth paying so much?

    Quote Originally Posted by evilorgi View Post
    what!! are you serious? using a lens pen will remove the mrc coating? how do you know that the coating is removed? then what about those stains on the front elements of the lens?

    i do use a lens pen to clean both the front element and the filter, will this erode/remove the coating on them? can any one verify what our fellow CSer has said? thanks!
    You rub something enough times, something will bound to come off. Water drip on stone and after many years will still cut through the rock. That is why some old birds told us never to wipe lens element. Leave it as it is unless it affects your output image.
    Last edited by daredevil123; 26th August 2009 at 03:17 AM.

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