If you're a wedding photographer, your passion is in making people look good in pictures, and the belief that you can give them something better than what's on the market, that you can make your clients happy. Because if you don't have this passion, you're going to be wondering why the hell are you slaving away night and day when you can go to some corporate job.
In other words, the majority of entrepreneurs are not driven by thoughts of an IPO, of being bloody rich. Talk to them and you'll find out, it's passion that sustains them through the years.
But that does not mean that they disregard the commercial realities. If your clients want angsty fine art photos, that's one thing. But if that's not what your market wants, then your passion may well be misplaced.
The passion that is needed is the desire to make the client happy and improve his life in some way. That's different from the passion to create something you like, or something artistic.
No, I belong to the group what TS has pointed out as Photographer C but friends are. They are motivated and driven, they have their own signature styles of shooting. However, TS has the skewed impression that they are not artsy and surrender themselves to the client. Of course the client has the final say, but it lies with the photographer's abilities to exercise the use of his/her creativity within the constraints and still deliver what the client wants. That's what makes them stand out. They have their own personal projects which they pursue to work out new techniques, presentations and ideas which they may apply to their commercial projects. So I don't see how commercial photography is no longer creative.
I do think that for a commercial project to succeed, there is usually some creative elements involved in it. The same applies to commercial photography. Hence, I wrote that there are commercial photographers who were/are very creative. But the direction of that creative energy is constrained and directed by one goal - profit. And I think that is why when one looks at the works of a photographer, he/she often has what is called "professional works" and "personal works". One was done with the aim of satisfying the client. The other was for oneself.
my suggestion to the TS is to assist in a commercial shoot and you will learn what the photographer has to go through to get the image done... provided the photographer lets the assistant in on the thought process and preproduction process... there are some who will...
in a perfect world, we would love to shoot whatever we want and still earn a living from it... there are some who succeed, but usually they are not doing commercial work only... at the end of the day, commercial work means you take direction from your client in what they want... you can contribute, but they have the final say... usually to shoot what the photographer wants comes at the photographer's own expense at the photographer's own time, ie. not on a commercial job...
maybe the misunderstanding comes about from the term "commercial"... not all professional photography jobs are "commercial" jobs... like weddings, events, editorials, photojournalists jobs, etc... compared to advertising, shooting for company annual reports, catalogs, etc. the photographer still works for clients/bosses but the degree of control is different... control also depends on reputation of the photographer...
Last edited by garou12; 5th November 2007 at 01:18 PM.
What you wrote implies a constraint within the box (yes, and creativity is needed to work within the constraints of the box) and a different way of making photographs outside the box.
I am not competent to comment on the financial status of those before me. Perhaps art historians can clarify. But I do not think Picasso catered to commercial needs when he exercised his creativity which led to cubism.
why are we still arguing about what commercial non commercial blar blar blar??
maybe she already found the photographers she want to work with her together to create her "dream" project.
let wait and see about her new works.
and I believe it will be strictly non commercial type of images.
Last edited by garou12; 5th November 2007 at 02:23 PM.
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