Vista - Safe now for Photography?????

glennboi · 25th October 2007

I came across on some reviews that Vista is not safe for Photography, how is it now?
I just had a PC with Vista, but still not used to PP for my pictures.

Thanks,

Benchmarc · 25th October 2007

Hey can elaborate "not safe for photography"? Thanks!

chanxj · 25th October 2007

I think he is talking abt the initial incompatibility with raw files when changed the tagged data. After patching the system should be allright

to play safe keep copies on DVD at the initial stage when not sure if properly patched.

yehosaphat · 26th October 2007

I am using Vista and doing PP on it!

theRBK · 28th October 2007

Vista has some issues with colour management... they are trying to implement a new colour management system based on Windows Color System as a replacement for the ICM based system...

the profiling software we use would load its profile made with the hardware profiling device on boot up but after a while Vista would take over the colour system and the profile loaded would be ignored... in other words, the monitors does not stay profiled... not very good for colour sensitive work...

ballwackers · 28th October 2007

Sorry but the question is ambiguous. Vista is an operating system. It includes a basic level software that allows you to arrange and publish photos. Minor editing is also included.

You can set your display settings in Vista the same way you set it in XP or any other OS.

I have used Vista for over a year (yes) and it is fine with photos. I've never tried to set WB, or make any significant edits to RAW or JPEG files with it... it is not designed to do that.

theRBK · 28th October 2007

like I mentioned, Vista after a while discards the custom profile of a monitor made on a device such as a Spyder so the colours and brightness that you see on the monitor may not be "correct"...

glennboi · 3rd November 2007

thanks for the reply......

basically, i came across in the net that there is some incompatibility with raw files which Vista alter some information in the EXIF and some reported the files was corrupted.

Well, that was after few weeks when Vista was introduced in the market. Was it already been fix? that's my queries.....................

theRBK · 4th November 2007

I believe the RAW issue is cleared up... have not been having any trouble with my NEF files... but like I said, the colour problem is there...

vector1 · 4th November 2007

I'm unsure what you all mean by the colour problem, as I've calibrated my screen, and have no issues with using that profile, nor printing with it

theRBK · 4th November 2007

Originally Posted by vector1

I'm unsure what you all mean by the colour problem, as I've calibrated my screen, and have no issues with using that profile, nor printing with it

the problem is that Vista might at some moment in time pop in and ignore the custom colour profile of the monitor... here's one site that has reported and explained the problem...

http://www.colorwiki.com/wiki/Vista's_New_Color_Management_System_-_WCS

jdredd · 13th November 2007

ive never had to use such a crapp program as vista. buggy as hell, SLOOOOOOOOW like anything. within 5 days of trying it, computer was back at dealer getting downgrade to XP.

frankly, unless you really need it for direct x games, i would use xp.

skywalker28 · 13th November 2007

Been using Vista @ CS3.. no problem... only issue is SPEED!!!! Vista hogs resources!

Godzilla Invades · 25th November 2007

Originally Posted by jdredd

ive never had to use such a crapp program as vista. buggy as hell, SLOOOOOOOOW like anything. within 5 days of trying it, computer was back at dealer getting downgrade to XP.

frankly, unless you really need it for direct x games, i would use xp.

Hehe.....I wouldn't called it a downgrade as Vista was never an upgrade......

Godzilla Invades · 25th November 2007

Originally Posted by skywalker28

Been using Vista @ CS3.. no problem... only issue is SPEED!!!! Vista hogs resources!

Hmm....then up your RAMs to 4GB lor.

If not, get a Vista 64bit which can run up to 32GB of RAMs?

If the OS is hogging the system speed is not a problem, then what is?

skywalker28 · 25th November 2007

Originally Posted by Godzilla Invades

Hmm....then up your RAMs to 4GB lor.

If not, get a Vista 64bit which can run up to 32GB of RAMs?

If the OS is hogging the system speed is not a problem, then what is?

Notebook ler.. DELL, hv 2GB liaw... if go for 4, that means 2GBx2 and u know how expensive 2GB notebook RAMS are.

It cam ori with DELL, if u want, u will hv to reload your 'own copy' of XP, and later if you want, reload back the ori Vista into your comp. That is e advise of their customer svs. Going forward, it will be Vista, so, get the ori and wait lor.

Can live with the speed thus far... not a problem, dont really do PP that much

theRBK · 1st December 2007

price of 2gb RAM sodimms for laptop now not too bad... worth it if you do a lot of photoshop work... buy it from Sim Lim and install yourself... you probably have to remove both your pieces of RAM to accomodate 2 pieces of 2gb... as well, make sure the motherboard of the laptop can take 4gb...

me, I have no prob with running CS3 on my almost 5yr old desktop with dual core Opteron (very old model...probably slower than some of the new laptop processors) and 4GB RAM, Vista 64... everything running smoothly... just the colour issue I mentioned earlier which I sort of work around by relaunching the Colorvision startup application everytime Vista decides to take over colour management...

25th October 2007	#1
glennboi Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pasir Ris Posts: 294	Vista - Safe now for Photography????? I came across on some reviews that Vista is not safe for Photography, how is it now? I just had a PC with Vista, but still not used to PP for my pictures. Thanks, __________________ __________________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/glennboi/collections/

25th October 2007	#2
Benchmarc Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 280	Re: Vista - Safe now for Photography????? Hey can elaborate "not safe for photography"? Thanks!

25th October 2007	#3
chanxj Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Singapore...... Posts: 598	Re: Vista - Safe now for Photography????? I think he is talking abt the initial incompatibility with raw files when changed the tagged data. After patching the system should be allright to play safe keep copies on DVD at the initial stage when not sure if properly patched. __________________ Chanxj my blog @ http://sgsnap.com

26th October 2007	#4
yehosaphat Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Posts: 2,605	Re: Vista - Safe now for Photography????? I am using Vista and doing PP on it! __________________ Canon 5D mkII\|24-105mm F4 IS L\|70-200mm F4 IS L\|580EX\|and more coming! :P

28th October 2007	#5
theRBK Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,807	Re: Vista - Safe now for Photography????? Vista has some issues with colour management... they are trying to implement a new colour management system based on Windows Color System as a replacement for the ICM based system... the profiling software we use would load its profile made with the hardware profiling device on boot up but after a while Vista would take over the colour system and the profile loaded would be ignored... in other words, the monitors does not stay profiled... not very good for colour sensitive work...

28th October 2007	#6
ballwackers Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lavender Posts: 158	Re: Vista - Safe now for Photography????? Sorry but the question is ambiguous. Vista is an operating system. It includes a basic level software that allows you to arrange and publish photos. Minor editing is also included. You can set your display settings in Vista the same way you set it in XP or any other OS. I have used Vista for over a year (yes) and it is fine with photos. I've never tried to set WB, or make any significant edits to RAW or JPEG files with it... it is not designed to do that. __________________ EOS 40D, EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS, Sigma 30 f/1.4, EF 50 f/1.8, EF 85 f/1.8 & EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS

3rd November 2007	#8
glennboi Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pasir Ris Posts: 294	Re: Vista - Safe now for Photography????? thanks for the reply...... basically, i came across in the net that there is some incompatibility with raw files which Vista alter some information in the EXIF and some reported the files was corrupted. Well, that was after few weeks when Vista was introduced in the market. Was it already been fix? that's my queries..................... __________________ __________________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/glennboi/collections/

4th November 2007	#9
theRBK Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,807	Re: Vista - Safe now for Photography????? I believe the RAW issue is cleared up... have not been having any trouble with my NEF files... but like I said, the colour problem is there...

4th November 2007	#10
vector1 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 548	Re: Vista - Safe now for Photography????? I'm unsure what you all mean by the colour problem, as I've calibrated my screen, and have no issues with using that profile, nor printing with it __________________ 1D MkIII, 5D MkII 16-200 2.8L, 35L, 50L, 135L View my flickr

13th November 2007	#12
jdredd Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,273	Re: Vista - Safe now for Photography????? ive never had to use such a crapp program as vista. buggy as hell, SLOOOOOOOOW like anything. within 5 days of trying it, computer was back at dealer getting downgrade to XP. frankly, unless you really need it for direct x games, i would use xp.

13th November 2007	#13
skywalker28 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Yishun Posts: 96	Re: Vista - Safe now for Photography????? Been using Vista @ CS3.. no problem... only issue is SPEED!!!! Vista hogs resources! __________________ D200 @ 12-24, 70-200, 17-50, 50, 18-200 & SB800

1st December 2007	#17
theRBK Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,807	Re: Vista - Safe now for Photography????? price of 2gb RAM sodimms for laptop now not too bad... worth it if you do a lot of photoshop work... buy it from Sim Lim and install yourself... you probably have to remove both your pieces of RAM to accomodate 2 pieces of 2gb... as well, make sure the motherboard of the laptop can take 4gb... me, I have no prob with running CS3 on my almost 5yr old desktop with dual core Opteron (very old model...probably slower than some of the new laptop processors) and 4GB RAM, Vista 64... everything running smoothly... just the colour issue I mentioned earlier which I sort of work around by relaunching the Colorvision startup application everytime Vista decides to take over colour management...