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    Received this in my email just to share wif all:

    This is a very good article. Not only about the hot water after your meal, but about heart attacks . The Chinese and Japanese drink hot tea with their meals, not cold water, maybe it is time we adopt their drinking habit while eating.

    For those who like to drink cold water, this article is applicable to you. It is nice to have a cup of cold drink after a meal. However, the cold water will solidify the oily stuff that you have just consumed. It will slow down the digestion. Once this "sludge" reacts with the acid, it will break down and be absorbed by the intestine faster than the solid food. It will line the intestine . Very soon, this will turn into fats and lead to cancer. It is best to drink hot soup or hot water/tea after a meal.

    A serious note about heart attacks - You should know that not every heart attack symptom is going to be the left arm hurting. Be aware of intense pain in the jaw line.

    You may never have the first chest pain during the course of a heart attack. Nausea and intense sweating are also common symptoms. 60% of people who have a heart attack while they are asleep do not wake up. Pain in the jaw can wake you from a sound sleep. Let's be careful and be aware. The more we know, the better chance we could survive.

    A cardiologist says if everyone who reads this message sends it to 10 people, you can be sure that we'll save at least one life. Read this & Send to a friend. It could save a life. So, please be a true friend and send this article to all your friends you care about.
    Anyone have other contribution can just share!

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    regarding the hot water drinking thing, its a myth.

    but in general, one shouldn't drink too hot nor too cold water...best is warm.

    Heart attack occurs primarily thru the occlusion of the LAD otherwise "affectionately" known as the widow maker blood vessel. i shall spare the medical details

    its a combi of bad management of nutrition and the build up of artherosclerotic plaque over long periods of time.

    One of the ways to help manage the buildup of the plaque in the arteries are to eat plenty of fruits and veges and fish and beans. its currently still very experimental, but there has been quite a number of convincing reports that ascorbic acid together with L-lysine and L-proline helps in the removing and breaking of plaque.

    again..all these scientific reports are always up to individuals to believe or not or try it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plsoong View Post
    regarding the hot water drinking thing, its a myth.

    but in general, one shouldn't drink too hot nor too cold water...best is warm.

    Heart attack occurs primarily thru the occlusion of the LAD otherwise "affectionately" known as the widow maker blood vessel. i shall spare the medical details

    its a combi of bad management of nutrition and the build up of artherosclerotic plaque over long periods of time.

    One of the ways to help manage the buildup of the plaque in the arteries are to eat plenty of fruits and veges and fish and beans. its currently still very experimental, but there has been quite a number of convincing reports that ascorbic acid together with L-lysine and L-proline helps in the removing and breaking of plaque.

    again..all these scientific reports are always up to individuals to believe or not or try it out.
    Drink direct from tap water = warm or cold?

    (actually, they drink hot water on hot summer day?)

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    there are one thousand and one way to die, why bother so much ? everything is written in the book as Heaven decides.


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    don't always believe everything on the internet.... especially disguised chain mails
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    Quote Originally Posted by melvin View Post
    Received this in my email just to share wif all:



    Anyone have other contribution can just share!
    Hi Melvin,

    Don't just believe all you get in emails, a form of chain mails......

    Anyway, certain enzymes in Tea does help in breaking down fats, so this could be the start of this kind of info, or it could be from companies trying to sell some products.......

    But tea does help in breaking down fats (lipids).......

    HS

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    Whatever, I think I'll most likely to die of heart attack looking at the amount of eggs, seafood, red meat I consumed without exercising for years.

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    I think I will die of cancer if I live long enough because I smoke a lot. If not, then traffic accidents because I like to jaywalk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_Yeo View Post
    Whatever, I think I'll most likely to die of heart attack looking at the amount of eggs, seafood, red meat I consumed without exercising for years.



    well for one, your diet looks very rich in proteins as well as L-lysine and L-proline!

    HAHAHHA now its time for u to whack more vitamin C from Papayas and tomatoes....

    even then also, there's the problem with Cholestrol



    to TS, i think its perfectly normal to read with interest and its good that u brought it up.
    Generally, as we advance in medical research, we realise that there's no real ideal thing. (yes not even food)

    just like the above example. if our dear Paul consumes all that, basically he's damn loaded with proteins with lotsa amounts of the 2 critical amino acids. so theoretically with ascorbate in the form of Vit C, that should reduce the chances of getting heart attacks or even help unclog the arteries rite? But then there's the problem with high levels of cholestrol and gout, etc, etc etc,......

    so in all fairness, take everything in moderation.

    but its good that such a thing is brought up for discussions

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongsien View Post
    Hi Melvin,

    Don't just believe all you get in emails, a form of chain mails......

    Anyway, certain enzymes in Tea does help in breaking down fats, so this could be the start of this kind of info, or it could be from companies trying to sell some products.......

    But tea does help in breaking down fats (lipids).......

    HS
    Ok! thanks for the advice but i know some of the info will be useful some may not thats one of the reason i post them on this thread another reason is that nowadays medical is of a high cost (which we cant do anything abt it) n hoping fellow brother n sis who have any tips or knowledge to guide us to a more healthier choice (this we can do something n control 也所謂病從口入!) and economic way as said Prevention is Better then Cure! Creating health awareness! So that all of us will have a better n healthier life style! Health = Wealth

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    Its a myth.

    if you want to know cancer progression and myocardiopathies..... its a lot more to that than an old wife's tale
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    cancer or not everyman must die and the question lies whether we r ready for it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emirates View Post
    cancer or not everyman must die and the question lies whether we r ready for it or not.
    Actually dying from heart attack is fast, and compared to other ways of death not tooo bad :-)

    Or hit by a car/train/airplane.....also not too bad

    Cancer is another cruel way of dying though.......

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    > AFTER YEARS OF TELLING PEOPLE CHEMOTHERAPY IS THE ONLY
    > WAY TO TRY (TRY THE KEY WORD) AND ELIMINATE CANCER,
    > JOHN HOPKINS IS FINALLY STARTING TO TELL YOU THERE IS
    > AN ALTERNATIVE WAY.
    >
    >
    > 1. Every person has cancer cells in the body. These
    > cancer cells do not show up in the standard tests
    > until they have multiplied to a few billion. When
    > doctors tell cancer patients that there are no more
    > cancer cells in their bodies after treatment, it just
    > means the tests are unable to detect the cancer cells
    > because they have not reached the detectable size.
    >
    > 2. Cancer cells occur between 6 to more than 10 times
    > in a person's lifetime.
    >
    > 3. When the person's immune system is strong the
    > cancer cells will be destroyed and prevented from
    > multiplying and forming tumours.
    >
    > 4. When a person has cancer it indicates the person
    > has multiple nutritional deficiencies. These could be
    > due to genetic, environmental, food and lifestyle
    > factors.
    >
    > 5. To overcome the multiple nutritional deficiencies,
    > changing diet and including supplements will
    > strengthen the immune system.
    >
    > 6. Chemotherapy involves poisoning the rapidly-growing
    > cancer cells and also destroys rapidly-growing healthy
    > cells in the bone marrow, gastro-intestinal tract etc,
    > and can cause organ damage, like liver, kidneys,
    > heart, lungs etc.
    >
    > 7. Radiation while destroying cancer cells also burns,
    > scars and damages healthy cells, tissues and organs.
    >
    > 8. Initial treatment with chemotherapy and radiation
    > will often reduce tumor size. However prolonged use of
    > chemotherapy and radiation do not result in more tumor
    > destruction.
    >
    > 9. When the body has too much toxic burden from
    > chemotherapy and radiation the immune system is either
    > compromised or destroyed, hence the person can succumb
    > to various kinds of infections and complications.
    >
    > 10. Chemotherapy and radiation can cause cancer cells
    > to mutate and become resistant and difficult to
    > destroy. Surgery can also cause cancer cells to spread
    > to other sites.
    >
    > 11. An effective way to battle cancer is to starve the
    > cancer cells by not feeding it with the foods it needs
    > to multiply.
    >
    > CANCER CELLS FEED ON:
    >
    > a. Sugar is a cancer-feeder. By cutting off sugar it
    > cuts off one important food supply to the cancer
    > cells. Sugar substitutes like NutraSweet, Equal,
    > Spoonful, etc are made with Aspartame and it is
    > harmful. A better natural substitute would be Manuka
    > honey or molasses but only in very small amounts.
    > Table salt has a chemical added to make it white in
    > colour. Better alternative is Bragg's aminos or sea
    > salt.
    >
    > b. Milk causes the body to produce mucus, especially
    > in the gastro-intestinal tract. Cancer feeds on
    > mucus. By cutting off milk and substituting with
    > unsweetened soya milk cancer cells are being starved.
    >
    > c. Cancer cells thrive in an acid environment. A
    > meat-based diet is acidic and it is best to eat fish,
    > and a little chicken rather than beef or pork. Meat
    > also contains livestock antibiotics, growth hormones
    > and parasites, which are all harmful, especially to
    > people with cancer.
    >
    > d. A diet made of 80% fresh vegetables and juice,
    > whole grains, seeds, nuts and a little fruits help put
    > the body into an alkaline environment.
    >
    > About 20% can be from cooked food including beans.
    > Fresh vegetable
    > Juices provide live enzymes that are easily absorbed
    > and reach down to cellular levels within 15 minutes
    > to nourish and enhance growth of healthy cells. To
    > obtain live enzymes for building healthy cells try and
    > drink fresh vegetable juice (most vegetables including
    > bean sprouts) and eat some raw vegetables 2 or 3 times
    > a day. Enzymes are destroyed at temperatures of 104
    > degrees F (40 degrees C).
    >
    > e. Avoid coffee, tea, and chocolate, which have high
    > caffeine. Green tea is a better alternative and has
    > cancer-fighting properties. Water- best to drink
    > purified water, or filtered, to avoid known toxins
    > and heavy metals in tap water. Distilled water is
    > acidic, avoid it.
    >
    > 12. Meat protein is difficult to digest and requires a
    > lot of digestive enzymes. Undigested meat remaining in
    > the intestines become putrified and leads to more
    > toxic buildup.
    >
    > 13. Cancer cell walls have a tough protein covering.
    > By refraining from or eating less meat it frees more
    > enzymes to attack the protein walls of cancer cells
    > and allows the body's killer cells to destroy the
    > cancer cells.
    >
    > 14. Some supplements build up the immune system (IP6,
    > Florssence, Essiac, anti-oxidants, vitamins, minerals,
    > EFAs etc.) to enable the body's own killer cells to
    > destroy cancer cells. Other supplements like vitamin E
    > are known to cause apoptosis, or programmed cell
    > death, the body's normal method of disposing of
    > damaged, unwanted, or unneeded cells.
    >
    > 15. Cancer is a disease of the mind, body, and spirit.
    > A proactive and positive spirit will help the cancer
    > warrior be a survivor. Anger, unforgiveness and
    > bitterness put the body into a stressful and acidic
    > environment. Learn to have a loving and forgiving
    > spirit. Learn to relax and enjoy life.
    >
    > 1 6. Cancer cells cannot thrive in an oxygenated
    > environment.
    >
    > Exercising daily, and deep breathing help to get more
    > oxygen down to the cellular level. Oxygen therapy is
    > another means employed to destroy cancer cells.
    >
    >
    > (PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO PEOPLE YOU CARE ABOUT)CANCER
    > UPDATE FROM JOHN HOPKINS HOSPITAL , U. S. -
    >
    >
    > PLEASE READ
    >
    > 1. No plastic containers in microwave.
    >
    > 2. No water bottles in freezer.
    >
    > 3. No plastic wrap in microwave.
    >
    > Also, he pointed out that plastic wrap, such as Saran,
    > is just as dangerous when placed over foods to be
    > cooked in the microwave. As the food is nuked, the
    > high heat causes poisonous toxins to actually melt out
    > of the plastic wrap and drip into the food. Cover food
    > with a paper towel instead.

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    For most internet websites, it's safer to check on those government/healthcare official websites (e.g. FDA or other .gov websites) for information rather than just believe any websites, especially some websites will tend to promote their own products.

    Quote Originally Posted by melvin View Post
    > AFTER YEARS OF TELLING PEOPLE CHEMOTHERAPY IS THE ONLY
    > WAY TO TRY (TRY THE KEY WORD) AND ELIMINATE CANCER,
    > JOHN HOPKINS IS FINALLY STARTING TO TELL YOU THERE IS
    > AN ALTERNATIVE WAY.
    >
    >
    > 1. Every person has cancer cells in the body. These
    > cancer cells do not show up in the standard tests
    > until they have multiplied to a few billion. When
    > doctors tell cancer patients that there are no more
    > cancer cells in their bodies after treatment, it just
    > means the tests are unable to detect the cancer cells
    > because they have not reached the detectable size.
    >
    > 2. Cancer cells occur between 6 to more than 10 times
    > in a person's lifetime.
    >
    > 3. When the person's immune system is strong the
    > cancer cells will be destroyed and prevented from
    > multiplying and forming tumours.
    >
    > 4. When a person has cancer it indicates the person
    > has multiple nutritional deficiencies. These could be
    > due to genetic, environmental, food and lifestyle
    > factors.
    >
    > 5. To overcome the multiple nutritional deficiencies,
    > changing diet and including supplements will
    > strengthen the immune system.
    >
    > 6. Chemotherapy involves poisoning the rapidly-growing
    > cancer cells and also destroys rapidly-growing healthy
    > cells in the bone marrow, gastro-intestinal tract etc,
    > and can cause organ damage, like liver, kidneys,
    > heart, lungs etc.
    >
    > 7. Radiation while destroying cancer cells also burns,
    > scars and damages healthy cells, tissues and organs.
    >
    > 8. Initial treatment with chemotherapy and radiation
    > will often reduce tumor size. However prolonged use of
    > chemotherapy and radiation do not result in more tumor
    > destruction.
    >
    > 9. When the body has too much toxic burden from
    > chemotherapy and radiation the immune system is either
    > compromised or destroyed, hence the person can succumb
    > to various kinds of infections and complications.
    >
    > 10. Chemotherapy and radiation can cause cancer cells
    > to mutate and become resistant and difficult to
    > destroy. Surgery can also cause cancer cells to spread
    > to other sites.
    >
    > 11. An effective way to battle cancer is to starve the
    > cancer cells by not feeding it with the foods it needs
    > to multiply.
    >
    > CANCER CELLS FEED ON:
    >
    > a. Sugar is a cancer-feeder. By cutting off sugar it
    > cuts off one important food supply to the cancer
    > cells. Sugar substitutes like NutraSweet, Equal,
    > Spoonful, etc are made with Aspartame and it is
    > harmful. A better natural substitute would be Manuka
    > honey or molasses but only in very small amounts.
    > Table salt has a chemical added to make it white in
    > colour. Better alternative is Bragg's aminos or sea
    > salt.
    >
    > b. Milk causes the body to produce mucus, especially
    > in the gastro-intestinal tract. Cancer feeds on
    > mucus. By cutting off milk and substituting with
    > unsweetened soya milk cancer cells are being starved.
    >
    > c. Cancer cells thrive in an acid environment. A
    > meat-based diet is acidic and it is best to eat fish,
    > and a little chicken rather than beef or pork. Meat
    > also contains livestock antibiotics, growth hormones
    > and parasites, which are all harmful, especially to
    > people with cancer.
    >
    > d. A diet made of 80% fresh vegetables and juice,
    > whole grains, seeds, nuts and a little fruits help put
    > the body into an alkaline environment.
    >
    > About 20% can be from cooked food including beans.
    > Fresh vegetable
    > Juices provide live enzymes that are easily absorbed
    > and reach down to cellular levels within 15 minutes
    > to nourish and enhance growth of healthy cells. To
    > obtain live enzymes for building healthy cells try and
    > drink fresh vegetable juice (most vegetables including
    > bean sprouts) and eat some raw vegetables 2 or 3 times
    > a day. Enzymes are destroyed at temperatures of 104
    > degrees F (40 degrees C).
    >
    > e. Avoid coffee, tea, and chocolate, which have high
    > caffeine. Green tea is a better alternative and has
    > cancer-fighting properties. Water- best to drink
    > purified water, or filtered, to avoid known toxins
    > and heavy metals in tap water. Distilled water is
    > acidic, avoid it.
    >
    > 12. Meat protein is difficult to digest and requires a
    > lot of digestive enzymes. Undigested meat remaining in
    > the intestines become putrified and leads to more
    > toxic buildup.
    >
    > 13. Cancer cell walls have a tough protein covering.
    > By refraining from or eating less meat it frees more
    > enzymes to attack the protein walls of cancer cells
    > and allows the body's killer cells to destroy the
    > cancer cells.
    >
    > 14. Some supplements build up the immune system (IP6,
    > Florssence, Essiac, anti-oxidants, vitamins, minerals,
    > EFAs etc.) to enable the body's own killer cells to
    > destroy cancer cells. Other supplements like vitamin E
    > are known to cause apoptosis, or programmed cell
    > death, the body's normal method of disposing of
    > damaged, unwanted, or unneeded cells.
    >
    > 15. Cancer is a disease of the mind, body, and spirit.
    > A proactive and positive spirit will help the cancer
    > warrior be a survivor. Anger, unforgiveness and
    > bitterness put the body into a stressful and acidic
    > environment. Learn to have a loving and forgiving
    > spirit. Learn to relax and enjoy life.
    >
    > 1 6. Cancer cells cannot thrive in an oxygenated
    > environment.
    >
    > Exercising daily, and deep breathing help to get more
    > oxygen down to the cellular level. Oxygen therapy is
    > another means employed to destroy cancer cells.
    >
    >
    > (PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO PEOPLE YOU CARE ABOUT)CANCER
    > UPDATE FROM JOHN HOPKINS HOSPITAL , U. S. -
    >
    >
    > PLEASE READ
    >
    > 1. No plastic containers in microwave.
    >
    > 2. No water bottles in freezer.
    >
    > 3. No plastic wrap in microwave.
    >
    > Also, he pointed out that plastic wrap, such as Saran,
    > is just as dangerous when placed over foods to be
    > cooked in the microwave. As the food is nuked, the
    > high heat causes poisonous toxins to actually melt out
    > of the plastic wrap and drip into the food. Cover food
    > with a paper towel instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by melvin View Post
    > AFTER YEARS OF TELLING PEOPLE CHEMOTHERAPY IS THE ONLY
    > WAY TO TRY (TRY THE KEY WORD) AND ELIMINATE CANCER,
    > JOHN HOPKINS IS FINALLY STARTING TO TELL YOU THERE IS
    > AN ALTERNATIVE WAY.
    >
    >
    > 1. Every person has cancer cells in the body. These
    > cancer cells do not show up in the standard tests
    > until they have multiplied to a few billion. When
    > doctors tell cancer patients that there are no more
    > cancer cells in their bodies after treatment, it just
    > means the tests are unable to detect the cancer cells
    > because they have not reached the detectable size.
    no, not true, everyone has normal cells, cancer cells dont exist normally. most of the oncogenes that cause cancer, are actually normal cellular genes required for normal function, i.e. repair, division to replace damaged tissue etc. but when these proto-oncogenes get over activated they become oncogenes. there are a couple of hypothesis on how cancer cells are formed, one is the progressive model, whilst the other is the stem cell selection model. the first model is one where by any cell can become cancerous, whereas the stem cell model is different, that cancer occurs when stem cells go awry. normally stem cells under go pseudo assymetric division, in which one cell is an exact copy in self renewal, the other becomes specificed and differentiated.
    > 2. Cancer cells occur between 6 to more than 10 times
    > in a person's lifetime.
    no, they dont occur that many times. Cancer is an accumulation of genetic mutations, and you have to have a series of genetic mutations before cancer can occur, not just one gene alone.
    > 3. When the person's immune system is strong the
    > cancer cells will be destroyed and prevented from
    > multiplying and forming tumours.
    nope, when a cell acquires a mutation, has damaged dna, it will bring about cell cycle arrest via tumor suppresive mechanisms, one of the most common tumor suppressors in cancer is p53, of which mutation in p53 will then result in onset of cancer. p53 arrests the cell from dividing, and causes it to under go programmed cell death, thus removing the bad cell. in programmed cell death, the immune system is not activated, this is unlike necrosis, where cells are damaged through trauma where pro inflammatory responses will then activate the humoral immune response and the adaptive.
    > 4. When a person has cancer it indicates the person
    > has multiple nutritional deficiencies. These could be
    > due to genetic, environmental, food and lifestyle
    > factors.
    nope, cancer can be due to environment, but not due to nutritional deficiencies. deficiencies of some ions etc or some vitamins will lead to deficiency diseases but not cancer.
    > 5. To overcome the multiple nutritional deficiencies,
    > changing diet and including supplements will
    > strengthen the immune system.
    once again, there is no involvement of immunesystem although in metastasis and certain mechanisms, the immune system may actually promote the process. leukemia is a immune cell related cancer, so if you activate more immune cells, and you might worsen the condition.
    > 6. Chemotherapy involves poisoning the rapidly-growing
    > cancer cells and also destroys rapidly-growing healthy
    > cells in the bone marrow, gastro-intestinal tract etc,
    > and can cause organ damage, like liver, kidneys,
    > heart, lungs etc.
    well.. you cant have the best of both worlds, except that healthy cells normally dont grow at the rate of the cancer cells, thus the drug has a more prominent effect in the tumor. at the same time, in chemotherapic drug design, they try to localize the drug and most of the time increase the bio availability to the tumor than other regions but this is difficult
    > 7. Radiation while destroying cancer cells also burns,
    > scars and damages healthy cells, tissues and organs.
    uv also... oxidative radicals as well....
    > 8. Initial treatment with chemotherapy and radiation
    > will often reduce tumor size. However prolonged use of
    > chemotherapy and radiation do not result in more tumor
    > destruction.
    perhaps true, there is a limit to how much you can treat with radiation
    > 9. When the body has too much toxic burden from
    > chemotherapy and radiation the immune system is either
    > compromised or destroyed, hence the person can succumb
    > to various kinds of infections and complications.
    well perhaps so, but most cancer patients, a huge percentage die from muscular cachexia, probably one third, the rest die from complications of the tumors in affecting physiological system than that of infections and diseases.
    > 10. Chemotherapy and radiation can cause cancer cells
    > to mutate and become resistant and difficult to
    > destroy. Surgery can also cause cancer cells to spread
    > to other sites.
    surgery only removes the primary tumor, i MIGHT agree that removal of the primary tumor may lead to metastasis, however that is because of a angiostatin related mechanism, is the author referring to this mechanism?
    > 11. An effective way to battle cancer is to starve the
    > cancer cells by not feeding it with the foods it needs
    > to multiply.
    yes, to starve the tumor, but localized starving, not starving other organs in the body.
    > CANCER CELLS FEED ON:
    >
    > a. Sugar is a cancer-feeder. By cutting off sugar it
    > cuts off one important food supply to the cancer
    > cells. Sugar substitutes like NutraSweet, Equal,
    > Spoonful, etc are made with Aspartame and it is
    > harmful. A better natural substitute would be Manuka
    > honey or molasses but only in very small amounts.
    > Table salt has a chemical added to make it white in
    > colour. Better alternative is Bragg's aminos or sea
    > salt.
    the human brain runs primarily on glucose. by taking in less sugar, or trying to reduce blood sugar levels affect many body organs and processes. your own body cells are similar to that of cancer calls, all dependent on glycolytic metabolism and other downstream metabolic pathways. using nutrasweet, equal etc DOES NOT HELP, because carbohydrates are eventually broken down to sugar anyway, and NUTRASWEET and EQUAL contains Aspartame, Saccharin, artificial sweeteners which are known to cause CANCER IN TEST RATS!
    > b. Milk causes the body to produce mucus, especially
    > in the gastro-intestinal tract. Cancer feeds on
    > mucus. By cutting off milk and substituting with
    > unsweetened soya milk cancer cells are being starved.
    cancer is not a monster that physically eats things, and one thing for sure, it is supplied by blood vessels and diffussible nutrients, definitely not Mucus!!
    > c. Cancer cells thrive in an acid environment. A
    > meat-based diet is acidic and it is best to eat fish,
    > and a little chicken rather than beef or pork. Meat
    > also contains livestock antibiotics, growth hormones
    > and parasites, which are all harmful, especially to
    > people with cancer.
    unfortunately CANCER cells do not thrive in an acidic environment, but int heir process of division they create an acidic environment due to an-aerobic respiration. they dont seek acidic environments and grow...
    > d. A diet made of 80% fresh vegetables and juice,
    > whole grains, seeds, nuts and a little fruits help put
    > the body into an alkaline environment.
    blood ph is tightly regulated, this is because breathing, gaseous exchange etc is dependent on pH as well, many other enzymes and processes in the body requires minimal alteration to ph for physiological purposes. btw seeds and nuts contain a lot of enzyme inhibitors, thats why some seeds take so long to germinate, and can lie dormant for so long, well some of them might have been proven to stimulate cancer cells in VITRO.
    oh well i wonder what is the actual source of this email...

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    > About 20% can be from cooked food including beans.
    > Fresh vegetable
    > Juices provide live enzymes that are easily absorbed
    > and reach down to cellular levels within 15 minutes
    > to nourish and enhance growth of healthy cells. To
    > obtain live enzymes for building healthy cells try and
    > drink fresh vegetable juice (most vegetables including
    > bean sprouts) and eat some raw vegetables 2 or 3 times
    > a day. Enzymes are destroyed at temperatures of 104
    > degrees F (40 degrees C).
    well i might agree that this is a good diet be it anti cancer or cancerous etc.. juice is good, so are vegetables
    > e. Avoid coffee, tea, and chocolate, which have high
    > caffeine. Green tea is a better alternative and has
    > cancer-fighting properties. Water- best to drink
    > purified water, or filtered, to avoid known toxins
    > and heavy metals in tap water. Distilled water is
    > acidic, avoid it.
    caffeine, green tea catechin, etc are all plant phenolic compounds.. so what is their role in cancer development? distilled water is not acidic, but generally neutral.
    > 12. Meat protein is difficult to digest and requires a
    > lot of digestive enzymes. Undigested meat remaining in
    > the intestines become putrified and leads to more
    > toxic buildup.
    well, one thing for sure, the body cannot digest a large component of vegetables and plant material, i.e. cellulose because we lack cellulase unlike cows.... meat wise the body's still able to provide the necessary enzymes. as per undigested meat going through putrifaction etc.. well there's definitely a lot of bacterial activity in the large intestines but minimal in the small intestine
    > 13. Cancer cell walls have a tough protein covering.
    > By refraining from or eating less meat it frees more
    > enzymes to attack the protein walls of cancer cells
    > and allows the body's killer cells to destroy the
    > cancer cells.
    no!! cancer cells do not have cell walls........... and no, your body does not secrete enzymes to attack the protein cell walls,.. if ever there is. the author may be referring to the extra cellular matrix, but most of our body cells are all enveloped in excellular matrix materials and a basal lamina anyway.
    > 14. Some supplements build up the immune system (IP6,
    > Florssence, Essiac, anti-oxidants, vitamins, minerals,
    > EFAs etc.) to enable the body's own killer cells to
    > destroy cancer cells. Other supplements like vitamin E
    > are known to cause apoptosis, or programmed cell
    > death, the body's normal method of disposing of
    > damaged, unwanted, or unneeded cells.
    anti oxidants may be good to reduce oxidative damage from other sources, but anti oxidants do not really target a cell for cell death. they are more protective than damaging, by accepting radicals etc, preventing the peroxidation of fats and other proteins etc.
    > 15. Cancer is a disease of the mind, body, and spirit.
    > A proactive and positive spirit will help the cancer
    > warrior be a survivor. Anger, unforgiveness and
    > bitterness put the body into a stressful and acidic
    > environment. Learn to have a loving and forgiving
    > spirit. Learn to relax and enjoy life.
    well this is something i might agree with but i dont know why he is so obsessed with an acidic environment
    > 1 6. Cancer cells cannot thrive in an oxygenated
    > environment.
    not true! they are anaerobic due to high levels of respiratory activity, like normal cells inthe body, they can live in oxygen and oxygen helps promote glycolytic processes.
    > Exercising daily, and deep breathing help to get more
    > oxygen down to the cellular level. Oxygen therapy is
    > another means employed to destroy cancer cells.
    >
    >
    > (PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO PEOPLE YOU CARE ABOUT)CANCER
    > UPDATE FROM JOHN HOPKINS HOSPITAL , U. S. -
    >
    >
    > PLEASE READ
    >
    > 1. No plastic containers in microwave.
    >
    > 2. No water bottles in freezer.
    >
    > 3. No plastic wrap in microwave.
    >
    > Also, he pointed out that plastic wrap, such as Saran,
    > is just as dangerous when placed over foods to be
    > cooked in the microwave. As the food is nuked, the
    > high heat causes poisonous toxins to actually melt out
    > of the plastic wrap and drip into the food. Cover food
    > with a paper towel instead.

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    chezburgr i can haz?

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    Quote Originally Posted by psychobiologist View Post
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    you really have time to correct most of this
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    Quote Originally Posted by psychobiologist View Post
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    Thanks for your hardwork!!! Now we have a clearer picture! Thanks!

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    I am not sure if it is a mistake or to mislead us in this article, but it is Johns Hopkins and not John Hopkins.......

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