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    Unhappy Access to history, DENIED!

    Wanted to photograph the historical Shaw Film studios at Jalan Ampas. I know of someone who did manage to get permission from the caretakers there to take pics quite a while back. But yesterday, my luck not so good. After they (there were a few people, assuming relatives of the caretaker?) politely rejected my request for permission to photograph, I walked out of the complex and they shut the gates behind me. All I could do was read this historic plaque thing in front of the premises. What an irony.

    That's the thing about S'pore. I dunno why it's so difficult to allow people to photograph such places of historical significance. And soon, the place will be torn down, and all we're left with is that plaque saying something like "...this is the former location of..." whatever. OR, if it doesn't get torn down, it will be made into some swanky pub/restaurant and you still would not be allowed to take photos (as was the case when I wanted to photography Lim Bo Seng's estate around Siglap area).

    Similar deal when I wanted to photograph my old secondary school. The jaga said cannot, not even from the outside.

    Often when we write in to the relevant authorities, they either don't reply, or give a "we regret to inform you" reply without any real reason.

    So, what do you think could be the reason why photography is not allowed? Speculations?

    Safety considerations (unstable structures)
    Health considerations (dengue?)
    Copyright issues?
    Criminal activity possibilities (drugs, vandalism, vice, Satanic rituals, etc)
    Don't want to turn the place into a circus?
    Giving the place negative publicity (haunting rumours, etc)
    Selling the images for profit.
    Private property. No photography. Just because.
    Government property. No photography. Just because.
    Threat to national security.

    Not just old buildings. Almost any building. As long as there's a security guard around seeing you with a cam, chances are he's going to stop you and he's not going to know why (just doing their job, they say.)
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    Default Re: Access to history, DENIED!

    yeaps, been to jalan ampas.


    suggest u write in to Shaw with ur reasons and the reasons why.
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    Default Re: Access to history, DENIED!

    what to do. Sg history all mostly from textbooks we learned. Either the places need entrance fees or out of bound.

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    Just shoot from the outside, they can't do much about you.

    For your factors, here are my views:

    Safety considerations (unstable structures) Yes
    Health considerations (dengue?) Don't No
    Copyright issues? No, but some idiots think its Yes
    Criminal activity possibilities (drugs, vandalism, vice, Satanic rituals, etc) Yes, if the place is abandoned
    Don't want to turn the place into a circus? Yes, although this is often unfounded.
    Giving the place negative publicity (haunting rumours, etc) No
    Selling the images for profit. No, but again, some idiots think its yes.
    Private property. No photography. Just because. Yes, but only within the compound.
    Government property. No photography. Just because. Yes, but only within the compound.
    Threat to national security. Yes, but only within the compound.


    Quote Originally Posted by synapseman View Post
    Wanted to photograph the historical Shaw Film studios at Jalan Ampas. I know of someone who did manage to get permission from the caretakers there to take pics quite a while back. But yesterday, my luck not so good. After they (there were a few people, assuming relatives of the caretaker?) politely rejected my request for permission to photograph, I walked out of the complex and they shut the gates behind me. All I could do was read this historic plaque thing in front of the premises. What an irony.

    That's the thing about S'pore. I dunno why it's so difficult to allow people to photograph such places of historical significance. And soon, the place will be torn down, and all we're left with is that plaque saying something like "...this is the former location of..." whatever. OR, if it doesn't get torn down, it will be made into some swanky pub/restaurant and you still would not be allowed to take photos (as was the case when I wanted to photography Lim Bo Seng's estate around Siglap area).

    Similar deal when I wanted to photograph my old secondary school. The jaga said cannot, not even from the outside.

    Often when we write in to the relevant authorities, they either don't reply, or give a "we regret to inform you" reply without any real reason.

    So, what do you think could be the reason why photography is not allowed? Speculations?

    Safety considerations (unstable structures)
    Health considerations (dengue?)
    Copyright issues?
    Criminal activity possibilities (drugs, vandalism, vice, Satanic rituals, etc)
    Don't want to turn the place into a circus?
    Giving the place negative publicity (haunting rumours, etc)
    Selling the images for profit.
    Private property. No photography. Just because.
    Government property. No photography. Just because.
    Threat to national security.

    Not just old buildings. Almost any building. As long as there's a security guard around seeing you with a cam, chances are he's going to stop you and he's not going to know why (just doing their job, they say.)

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    dunno. take it with a pinch of salt. many places are forbidden but you can always break in.

    but of course, dont get caught!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by synapseman View Post
    So, what do you think could be the reason why photography is not allowed? Speculations?
    Least amount of effort and responsibility for whoever could approve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleWolf View Post
    Least amount of effort and responsibility for whoever could approve.
    Probably this is the most real reason behind the denials.

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    Take from outside the plot boundary. So you can shoot while standing on the footpath. If the jagas get violent and threaten to call police, tell him to call lah. Since you're not doing anything illegal, nothing to fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by synapseman View Post
    Wanted to photograph the historical Shaw Film studios at Jalan Ampas. I know of someone who did manage to get permission from the caretakers there to take pics quite a while back. But yesterday, my luck not so good. After they (there were a few people, assuming relatives of the caretaker?) politely rejected my request for permission to photograph, I walked out of the complex and they shut the gates behind me. All I could do was read this historic plaque thing in front of the premises. What an irony.

    That's the thing about S'pore. I dunno why it's so difficult to allow people to photograph such places of historical significance. And soon, the place will be torn down, and all we're left with is that plaque saying something like "...this is the former location of..." whatever. OR, if it doesn't get torn down, it will be made into some swanky pub/restaurant and you still would not be allowed to take photos (as was the case when I wanted to photography Lim Bo Seng's estate around Siglap area).

    Similar deal when I wanted to photograph my old secondary school. The jaga said cannot, not even from the outside.

    Often when we write in to the relevant authorities, they either don't reply, or give a "we regret to inform you" reply without any real reason.

    So, what do you think could be the reason why photography is not allowed? Speculations?

    Safety considerations (unstable structures)
    Health considerations (dengue?)
    Copyright issues?
    Criminal activity possibilities (drugs, vandalism, vice, Satanic rituals, etc)
    Don't want to turn the place into a circus?
    Giving the place negative publicity (haunting rumours, etc)
    Selling the images for profit.
    Private property. No photography. Just because.
    Government property. No photography. Just because.
    Threat to national security.

    Not just old buildings. Almost any building. As long as there's a security guard around seeing you with a cam, chances are he's going to stop you and he's not going to know why (just doing their job, they say.)
    we can try again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbs99 View Post
    we can try again!
    haaa
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