4th May 2003, 07:09 PM
wahh, wai , u also not local ah. seems like quite a few ppl not locals.
By the way , ghim moh, is very near to Holland road, next to RJC, and a few bus stops away from Henry Park Primary School, the pri sch i went to last time.
4th May 2003, 07:11 PM
4th May 2003, 07:25 PM
Its ok dont worry, me not so particular
4th May 2003, 07:25 PM
"oic........I have been here for 12 years and still don't know all the road names mah""
Shame on you! :-)
10th May 2003, 12:14 AM
Any news about the parcel?
10th May 2003, 04:15 AM
Haiz, till now still not here. Comfirm + chop gone case liao lah. Now dunno wat i should next also liao lah.
10th May 2003, 11:31 AM
my sis onli buy things frm the local yahoo...
so far it's quiet smoothly...nth bad happened yet...
10th May 2003, 12:27 PM
altho i personally got burned twice both as seller and buyer i take that as paying lessons and remain as ebayer
points i normally note as buyer : -
1) sellers feedback ( evalute their negative feedbacks esp. )
( note what he has been selling, for all you know he could be selling some kuching kurak items couple of times to build a good feedback profile first than fraud one big time )
( note the last sold item date, see how active the account is )
( cross bidding by friends to create a good profile is not uncommon )
2) insist they buy insurance for the more expensive products and send you a copy of it
3) like most pals here have advised you, try and pay by credit card so you will be protected by chargeback
4) specify sound international courier and ask for tracking number
5) keep all correspondences for online dispute resolution if needed
6) to be very sure, just be a pain, ask for :
- copy of their bank statement ( they can cancel out all the trasaction details )
- verify with issuing bank his existence
7) request for his residing address and contact details, just give him a call to verify
8) always try to keep to protection guidelines suggested by auction sites otherwise they wont entertain your claims or dispute
8) keep all these information, they will help you deal with fraud investigation better.
as seller : -
1) rule of thumb - dont be tempted to sell your items to the following countries :
- lithuania / russia
- china ( can but with caution )
these are the places you get 99% fraud
2) if the items are expensive, ask them to pay by :
- Telegraphic transfer
- demand draft / money order
3) let them have as much assurance as seller, let them have your issuing bank details, address etc...
4) if they insist on paypal, then you really have to stick to the guidelines given by auction site ( in it they indicate countries they cover, payment procedure etc... )
5) always indicate in your site terms and conditions on payment, shipping procedure ( try and protect yourself by releasing the goods upon payment only but keeping to guidelines strictly )
6) pay alittle more for insurance to ensure your goods arrive in same condition.
7) discuss your doubt with more experience buyer/seller in the forum, they could provide invaluable advice
10th May 2003, 04:05 PM
10th May 2003, 04:08 PM
btw, me sis not bro
10th May 2003, 04:13 PM
11th May 2003, 03:55 PM
Looks like you have to contatc the FBI by end of this week:
It is the only address that may be able to help you. Luckily you have the persons bank particulars as this is very likely to be of the person that scammed you.
11th May 2003, 04:48 PM
13th May 2003, 12:28 PM
Good luck with the FBI site, but I have to say that of all the places I reported my fraud to, that was the *least* helpful and responsive of the lot. Not even a peep heard out of them, apart from this stock email:
*** Please do not contact the IFCC to ascertain the status of your complaint. We cannot respond to these inquires. ***
The IFCC receives thousands of complaints monthly and does not have the resources to respond to these inquiries. It is the IFCC's intention to review all complaints and refer them to law enforcement and regulatory agencies having jurisdiction. Investigation and prosecution are at the discretion of the receiving agencies.
What all that means, of course, is that they're not going to care. The long arm of the law is a lazy, callous one.
13th May 2003, 01:09 PM
The above experience doesn't sound positive, but guess you have not much choice.
Here are some other sites, look at them and see if there is anything you could use, just try everyting possible and hope for the best.
Let us know here if there is anything coming out of these........
Last edited by hongsien; 14th May 2003 at 12:49 AM.
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14th May 2003, 01:36 PM
I personally have had a number of bad experiences of ebay and yahoo sg, and have listed mine in a blacklist at my site to let other buyers know.
It's good that you got your money back... I've lost around $250+ myself in the past year.