Seriously, how many computer geeks hanging around in online forums that boast with their latest and greatest computers use them for serious data processing, as opposed to playing shooting games?
Let's assume that 10% of photographers produce good pictures. Before the internet democratized the publishing of information, you would mainly see the top 10% (and then only those who try to make their images known), while the pictures of the bottom 90% disappear, packaged in shoeboxes, in a cupboard to be almost never seen again. Now everyone can show their pictures to the world with minimum effort. It's only natural if there is a lot of crap out there.i'm very disturbed
recently there have been many comments with regards to cs embracing a lower standard of quality - that the pictures here are "trash" i don't know about you guys, i think there are many brilliant photographers here though
Is this decay in standards worth decrying? Maybe. But otherwise, would you and I have the opportunity to share our own crap with the world?
i don't like shooting girls leh
pay money to shoot like very funny
i will arrange when i'm back next summer
but sharing crap to improve
versus sharing crap for the sake of sharing crap
i don't know, to me there is a difference
my point here is critique, nothing to do with sharing
by all means post
but if you don't want comments other than sugar coated ones, why not just lock your thread
There's also a school of thought that raises deliberate production of crap to an art form ("lomography").
Even if you want honest feedback, do you not secretly hope a bit that you'll earn some praise? Would you show the pictures that let you learn the most, or those that are the least embarrassing? We're just humans.but if you don't want comments other than sugar coated ones, why not just lock your thread
there might be some misunderstanding. think he meant your thoughts about why you think his picture is underexposed, rather than insinuating that your thoughts is "underexposed".
i dun think he sees/understand your points about photography-related comments (likewise i dun understand what he meant by "limited angle shot" when he appears to be in the open, as i've there a decade ago and dun think it has changed that much), but was surprised/pissed why you got flare up with it.
looking back, he sounded rather friendly at first with some fun icons. so all in all, it is probably a misunderstanding, so dun get upset with it.
i show the pictures that i think are the better ones out of what i take
not because they are least embarassing to me, but i want to see if there is any merit to my sense of judgement - sometimes i throw in something that i think might work but i do not like just to test the waters, to see what people see
that should be the way art is, at least to me - certainly i'm ok with being proud of your own work whether it has any artistic merit in any other person's eyes, don't get me wrong. but if you wish to force your opinion onto others by throwing a minor tantrum when they disagree then well, jolly well remember that you can only control yourself, not others
obviously the london eye at night would have flare, even i experience it, there is no real way to shade it because the light source is at a funny location
i get particularly irritated when people add the tag "no pp" to a photo; if they mean that they can attain a certain effect straight out of cam, by all means; but if they're saying it just to escape some sort of criticism, i.e. that something is missing because of the lack of pp, then frankly, it seems like there is not much pride in the photo to me, might as well not post it up
don't know la, but anyways this is not the first time i have encountered this, just store until cannot tahan anymore
one reason why i dont post any pictures for C&C is because i like them the way they are. and if there is anything wrong i got a good friend(that is better and knows more than me) that i can send to for C&C and some pointers in editting.
if you post your pictures, there will be some that will not like it and have the guts to tell you "hey there is something wrong" their intent may be for good:to help you improve or for ill: to put you down and feel bad about yourself thus making their day
whatever way, if you cant eat the bittergourd that came with the yong tau foo, either throw it away(ignore it) eat it(try something new and hopefully improve) or you can get angry and ask the stall owner why put bittergourd in it in the first place!!
or just tell him, i dont want it.
crude analogy, but thats the only one i can think of at 1am
but in any case we all have to learn how to differentiate constructive criticism from negative criticism
i've been seeing a lot of downright destructive criticism, i quote an example that i just saw when browsing through
i have no idea how this comment will help the poor ts in any way, when obvious effort has been shown in his composition etc; i do wish the admin would do something about this, maybe i will take the time to write something proper with good justification in faq and feedbacks soon with regards to guidelines to commentsOriginally Posted by member
as far as i can see though, in my book there are people here who cannot take criticism, that's one thing mentioned;
and there are people who offer criticism which might not be offered at all since it serves no purpose except to inflame and instigate quarrels - i think some sort of disincentive should be given, and do hope that some strictness is practised
not that i'm a whore for authority, but i don't know, it would definitely make cs a much better place, not just for newcomers, but for the "older" people
Dude, did you read the stickies in C&C? eikin did a fine job there already.
take it easy. it is difficult to control how people posts criticisms and how people sees criticisms. a lot of hardwork was put into the critique corners, with a tough job by some of the moderators.
my personal opinion is that trying too hard to enforce it and making the instructions too long may just backfire. and it isn't healthy to tire out the moderators by having too many maintanence jobs and "policing". getting things auto-piloted as much as possible, hopefully is the way to go.
Yeah... But you talking about "guidelines to comments" mah. Which i thought eikin's sticky thread was quite comprehensive already.
Unless you have some something to value-add to it
i think its a serious case of misunderstanding.
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I read the thread, I think nightmare you misunderstand him lah....
Anyway regarding comments, you people keep saying "nice pics" comments are useless but I think it is quite ok for me
Personally, I would be happy even with a comment "nice pics" as it does tell me something about my pics. When I go overseas in Europe 3 years back, nobody post "nice pics" on my threads. nowadays more and more "nice pics"
Of course comments about technical stuff also good but simple comments are also welcomed as it does help you to gauge whether the pic is visually appealing.