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    Quote Originally Posted by gryphon View Post
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    nobody comment on my pictures as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    so my question to one and all:
    1) do you take up photography to shoot better shots that you can be proud of, or do you just take it so that you can have cleaner pictures using a dslr without noise? if the horizons are tilted, the shots are overexposed with bad composition which does not interest the viewer at all, what is the purpose?
    For example, souvenirs for the family album. Proud parents buy cameras to document the first baby steps of their offspring, with no intentions of producing art.

    Seriously, how many computer geeks hanging around in online forums that boast with their latest and greatest computers use them for serious data processing, as opposed to playing shooting games?

    i'm very disturbed
    recently there have been many comments with regards to cs embracing a lower standard of quality - that the pictures here are "trash" i don't know about you guys, i think there are many brilliant photographers here though
    Let's assume that 10% of photographers produce good pictures. Before the internet democratized the publishing of information, you would mainly see the top 10% (and then only those who try to make their images known), while the pictures of the bottom 90% disappear, packaged in shoeboxes, in a cupboard to be almost never seen again. Now everyone can show their pictures to the world with minimum effort. It's only natural if there is a lot of crap out there.

    Is this decay in standards worth decrying? Maybe. But otherwise, would you and I have the opportunity to share our own crap with the world?

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    this is ClubSNAP so we take snap shots mah.

    Why think so deeply, just enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatlapball View Post
    Uh OT... you say you served NS, but you don't have a bank account?

    I thought SAF will help (read: make it compulsory) you open a POSB account if you don't already have one?
    studying overseas la brudder

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    Just open a bank account and post the number here lah.

    People will bank in money for you one.

    Each CSer tranfers $10 into your account you'll be Hor Say liao.

    That's how I started.
    good idea hor, but exchange rate not favourable, waste timeee

    Quote Originally Posted by CYRN View Post
    actually, wan good comment.... shoot pretty gals. sure some will say "good shot"....realli.
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    i don't like shooting girls leh
    pay money to shoot like very funny
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    dun wan... later I end up like tis
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    For example, souvenirs for the family album. Proud parents buy cameras to document the first baby steps of their offspring, with no intentions of producing art.

    Seriously, how many computer geeks hanging around in online forums that boast with their latest and greatest computers use them for serious data processing, as opposed to playing shooting games?



    Let's assume that 10% of photographers produce good pictures. Before the internet democratized the publishing of information, you would mainly see the top 10% (and then only those who try to make their images known), while the pictures of the bottom 90% disappear, packaged in shoeboxes, in a cupboard to be almost never seen again. Now everyone can show their pictures to the world with minimum effort. It's only natural if there is a lot of crap out there.

    Is this decay in standards worth decrying? Maybe. But otherwise, would you and I have the opportunity to share our own crap with the world?
    it is a good point
    but sharing crap to improve
    versus sharing crap for the sake of sharing crap
    i don't know, to me there is a difference

    my point here is critique, nothing to do with sharing
    by all means post
    but if you don't want comments other than sugar coated ones, why not just lock your thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    but sharing crap to improve
    versus sharing crap for the sake of sharing crap
    i don't know, to me there is a difference
    How about sharing crap for the sake of getting your 5 minutes of fame?

    There's also a school of thought that raises deliberate production of crap to an art form ("lomography").

    but if you don't want comments other than sugar coated ones, why not just lock your thread
    Even if you want honest feedback, do you not secretly hope a bit that you'll earn some praise? Would you show the pictures that let you learn the most, or those that are the least embarrassing? We're just humans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imouyang View Post
    People only like to hear nice things and not everyone here likes their photos to be critique... Some ppl just want to expect good comments like good job, bro etc.
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    there might be some misunderstanding. think he meant your thoughts about why you think his picture is underexposed, rather than insinuating that your thoughts is "underexposed".

    i dun think he sees/understand your points about photography-related comments (likewise i dun understand what he meant by "limited angle shot" when he appears to be in the open, as i've there a decade ago and dun think it has changed that much), but was surprised/pissed why you got flare up with it.

    looking back, he sounded rather friendly at first with some fun icons. so all in all, it is probably a misunderstanding, so dun get upset with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleWolf View Post
    How about sharing crap for the sake of getting your 5 minutes of fame?

    There's also a school of thought that raises deliberate production of crap to an art form ("lomography").

    Even if you want honest feedback, do you not secretly hope a bit that you'll earn some praise? Would you show the pictures that let you learn the most, or those that are the least embarrassing? We're just humans.
    well there are nicer lomo pictures and not so nice lomo pictures, don't you think ; at least i think so - based on that then there is still some form of "art value" and "judgement" in the world of lomo, else there'd be no lomo competitions

    i show the pictures that i think are the better ones out of what i take

    not because they are least embarassing to me, but i want to see if there is any merit to my sense of judgement - sometimes i throw in something that i think might work but i do not like just to test the waters, to see what people see

    that should be the way art is, at least to me - certainly i'm ok with being proud of your own work whether it has any artistic merit in any other person's eyes, don't get me wrong. but if you wish to force your opinion onto others by throwing a minor tantrum when they disagree then well, jolly well remember that you can only control yourself, not others
    Quote Originally Posted by zoossh View Post
    there might be some misunderstanding. think he meant your thoughts about why you think his picture is underexposed, rather than insinuating that your thoughts is "underexposed".

    i dun think he sees/understand your points about photography-related comments (likewise i dun understand what he meant by "limited angle shot" when he appears to be in the open, as i've there a decade ago and dun think it has changed that much), but was surprised/pissed why you got flare up with it.

    looking back, he sounded rather friendly at first with some fun icons. so all in all, it is probably a misunderstanding, so dun get upset with it.
    perhaps, i only derived that as derogatory based on the context that he was ultimately defensive about his photographs - even throwing in stuff into the equation that i had not critiqued on

    obviously the london eye at night would have flare, even i experience it, there is no real way to shade it because the light source is at a funny location

    i get particularly irritated when people add the tag "no pp" to a photo; if they mean that they can attain a certain effect straight out of cam, by all means; but if they're saying it just to escape some sort of criticism, i.e. that something is missing because of the lack of pp, then frankly, it seems like there is not much pride in the photo to me, might as well not post it up

    don't know la, but anyways this is not the first time i have encountered this, just store until cannot tahan anymore

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    one reason why i dont post any pictures for C&C is because i like them the way they are. and if there is anything wrong i got a good friend(that is better and knows more than me) that i can send to for C&C and some pointers in editting.

    if you post your pictures, there will be some that will not like it and have the guts to tell you "hey there is something wrong" their intent may be for good:to help you improve or for ill: to put you down and feel bad about yourself thus making their day

    whatever way, if you cant eat the bittergourd that came with the yong tau foo, either throw it away(ignore it) eat it(try something new and hopefully improve) or you can get angry and ask the stall owner why put bittergourd in it in the first place!!

    or just tell him, i dont want it.

    crude analogy, but thats the only one i can think of at 1am

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrhobbit View Post
    one reason why i dont post any pictures for C&C is because i like them the way they are. and if there is anything wrong i got a good friend(that is better and knows more than me) that i can send to for C&C and some pointers in editting.

    if you post your pictures, there will be some that will not like it and have the guts to tell you "hey there is something wrong" their intent may be for good:to help you improve or for ill: to put you down and feel bad about yourself thus making their day

    whatever way, if you cant eat the bittergourd that came with the yong tau foo, either throw it away(ignore it) eat it(try something new and hopefully improve) or you can get angry and ask the stall owner why put bittergourd in it in the first place!!

    or just tell him, i dont want it.

    crude analogy, but thats the only one i can think of at 1am
    i get what you mean

    but in any case we all have to learn how to differentiate constructive criticism from negative criticism

    i've been seeing a lot of downright destructive criticism, i quote an example that i just saw when browsing through

    Quote Originally Posted by member
    Goodness. Why go to Ubin if that's all it offers?
    i have no idea how this comment will help the poor ts in any way, when obvious effort has been shown in his composition etc; i do wish the admin would do something about this, maybe i will take the time to write something proper with good justification in faq and feedbacks soon with regards to guidelines to comments

    as far as i can see though, in my book there are people here who cannot take criticism, that's one thing mentioned;

    and there are people who offer criticism which might not be offered at all since it serves no purpose except to inflame and instigate quarrels - i think some sort of disincentive should be given, and do hope that some strictness is practised

    not that i'm a whore for authority, but i don't know, it would definitely make cs a much better place, not just for newcomers, but for the "older" people

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    Dude, did you read the stickies in C&C? eikin did a fine job there already.

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    take it easy. it is difficult to control how people posts criticisms and how people sees criticisms. a lot of hardwork was put into the critique corners, with a tough job by some of the moderators.

    my personal opinion is that trying too hard to enforce it and making the instructions too long may just backfire. and it isn't healthy to tire out the moderators by having too many maintanence jobs and "policing". getting things auto-piloted as much as possible, hopefully is the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatlapball View Post
    Dude, did you read the stickies in C&C? eikin did a fine job there already.
    it is one thing to make rules

    another thing to make sure that they are followed

    it does not matter if you tell a man that he cannot spit on a certain place if there is no retribution for his doing it, humans are like that

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    Yeah... But you talking about "guidelines to comments" mah. Which i thought eikin's sticky thread was quite comprehensive already.

    Unless you have some something to value-add to it

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    this thread?
    http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=315016

    i think its a serious case of misunderstanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiGdUb View Post
    this thread?
    http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=315016

    i think its a serious case of misunderstanding.
    Seriously I tink it was really some very good pics..

    Maybe i am a noob photographer.

    I can never get equal and correct exposure here and there for a night shot
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    I read the thread, I think nightmare you misunderstand him lah....

    Anyway regarding comments, you people keep saying "nice pics" comments are useless but I think it is quite ok for me

    Personally, I would be happy even with a comment "nice pics" as it does tell me something about my pics. When I go overseas in Europe 3 years back, nobody post "nice pics" on my threads. nowadays more and more "nice pics"

    Of course comments about technical stuff also good but simple comments are also welcomed as it does help you to gauge whether the pic is visually appealing.

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