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Old 17th September 2007   #1
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Question Noise at ISO 100 using sony alpha

hi guys...

I tried taking night shots and when viewed at actual pixels, the night sky is full of noise even though i am using iso 100.

is it normal? or is my settings wrong?
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Old 17th September 2007   #2
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Default Re: Noise at ISO 100 using sony alpha

That's very very very wrong...

How long was your exposure time? 30 minutes? :P
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Old 17th September 2007   #3
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That's very very very wrong...

How long was your exposure time? 30 minutes? :P
30 seconds.....
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Old 17th September 2007   #4
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30 seconds.....
30 secs at iso 100 is nothing... You shouldn't have noise.
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Old 18th September 2007   #5
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Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
30 secs at iso 100 is nothing... You shouldn't have noise.
that's why. i am using f18 aperture at 30 secs
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Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
30 secs at iso 100 is nothing... You shouldn't have noise.
That is wrong. Noise is always present, it's just how much of it. The longer you work the sensor, the more noise it has.

There's NR function in KM/Sony DSLRs which uses the method of dark frame subtraction which are used to reduce noise in exposures more than 1 second. It should improve long exposures in this case. The drawback is that the NR process takes as long as the exposure.
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Old 18th September 2007   #7
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That is wrong. Noise is always present, it's just how much of it. The longer you work the sensor, the more noise it has.

There's NR function in KM/Sony DSLRs which uses the method of dark frame subtraction which are used to reduce noise in exposures more than 1 second. It should improve long exposures in this case. The drawback is that the NR process takes as long as the exposure.
I am fully aware of that. Nevertheless, I've taken long exposures at ISO100 with NR off and not found any noticeable noise.
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Old 18th September 2007   #8
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Default Re: Noise at ISO 100 using sony alpha

30 sec exposure quite long, i think its normal to have noise.. especially if you shots a few in a time with long exposure coz the ccd will be quite hot... how bad is the noise?
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I am fully aware of that. Nevertheless, I've taken long exposures at ISO100 with NR off and not found any noticeable noise.
maybe i need to emphasize that when viewing it on maybe a4 size, can't really see noise. what i meant is when seeing in actual pixel size which means 100%, not zoomed out. that's when i see noise....so i wondering if it is normal....
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30 sec exposure quite long, i think its normal to have noise.. especially if you shots a few in a time with long exposure coz the ccd will be quite hot... how bad is the noise?
u mean there should be a long interval between shots?
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Old 18th September 2007   #11
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Why not post some sample, both full picture and crop 100%.

Originally Posted by godzilla60 View Post
maybe i need to emphasize that when viewing it on maybe a4 size, can't really see noise. what i meant is when seeing in actual pixel size which means 100%, not zoomed out. that's when i see noise....so i wondering if it is normal....
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u mean there should be a long interval between shots?

If you took multiple shots, do you see a difference in noise between shot 1 and X?
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Why not post some sample, both full picture and crop 100%.
seriously, i would love to......

however, i am unable to post pics on the forum....(think i am technically challenged ...)

how do i post it?
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Old 18th September 2007   #14
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seriously, i would love to......

however, i am unable to post pics on the forum....(think i am technically challenged ...)

how do i post it?
Check the stickies in the "Newbies Corner" threads...

This gets asked about once a week at least.
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Old 18th September 2007   #15
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Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
Check the stickies in the "Newbies Corner" threads...

This gets asked about once a week at least.
now i know why i am unable to post the files up... the file limit of 100kb... posted the re-sized one, not sure if u can see the noise, though....

but i am unable to log in to the gallery after uploading....
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Originally Posted by godzilla60 View Post
now i know why i am unable to post the files up... the file limit of 100kb... posted the re-sized one, not sure if u can see the noise, though....

but i am unable to log in to the gallery after uploading....
Try uploading to Flickr or Photobucket and give us the link.
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Old 18th September 2007   #17
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Default Re: Noise at ISO 100 using sony alpha

ok, here goes....

multiply website....

image-intensive, original hi-res (that's what they say)....

http://godzilla60.multiply.com/photo...t_shots_170907
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OK, I can't access Multiply from office. Guys, please help our bro here.
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Old 18th September 2007   #19
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OK, I can't access Multiply from office. Guys, please help our bro here.
I'm blocked too. I'll check it later.
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Default Re: Noise at ISO 100 using sony alpha

Originally Posted by godzilla60 View Post
ok, here goes....

multiply website....

image-intensive, original hi-res (that's what they say)....

http://godzilla60.multiply.com/photo...t_shots_170907
Looks fine to me.
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