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    Default Re: 2007 FORMULA 1™ ING Belgian Grand Prix. (16 Sep.)

    Quote Originally Posted by asterixsg View Post
    Sorry canew, we all got sidetracked from the Belgium GP this weekend Let's hope for some good racing this weekend. Monza was quite boring.
    No problem la, this is generally a F1 thread, so it is OK.

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    Default Re: 2007 FORMULA 1™ ING Belgian Grand Prix. (16 Sep.)

    Quote Originally Posted by asterixsg View Post
    bro Canew, can you please start a thread for the Shanghai F1 GP now itself ? So, we can discuss it there
    Are you serious about it? The race quite a long way off le. Want me to start? ... On second thought, I think it is appropriate to start the Shanghai F1 thread as there are some CS-ers that are interested in organising a trip there.

    OK. Here is the Shanghai F1 thread.

    Have fun guys.

    F. Alonso GO! L. Hamilton GO!

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    Default Re: 2007 FORMULA 1™ ING Belgian Grand Prix. (16 Sep.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Canew View Post
    F. Alonso GO! L. Hamilton GO!
    go where???

    sorry... just have to have a go at this

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    Default Re: 2007 FORMULA 1™ ING Belgian Grand Prix. (16 Sep.)

    Quote Originally Posted by mohgui View Post
    go where???
    GO towards the checkered flag and grab it la!

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    Eh! It suddenly struck me. Since McLaren will be the last placed team, that will mean that their paddock for the 2008 season will be one of the last ones in the pit lane lor!!!

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    Default Re: 2007 FORMULA 1™ ING Belgian Grand Prix. (16 Sep.)

    mclaren drivers point should exclude 2007 season, cos they using the mclaren hybrid ferrari car

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    Default Re: 2007 FORMULA 1™ ING Belgian Grand Prix. (16 Sep.)

    Quote Originally Posted by mohgui View Post
    eh, do you guys watch the A1 series too? the season's starting soon.
    Its a sad case la. Timing is bad, ever since F1 cfm coming to SG, no one wanna sponsor Team SG. Hence, Team SG gone kaput! No longer racing in A1 next season.

    Quote Originally Posted by mysterio506 View Post
    mclaren drivers point should exclude 2007 season, cos they using the mclaren hybrid ferrari car
    The drivers are let off in exchange for evidence that McLaren used Ferrari's stuff. So, their points are still intact. I think its fair la. Legal system sometimes work this way too. If a crook give info, he can get a lighter sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Canew View Post
    Eh! It suddenly struck me. Since McLaren will be the last placed team, that will mean that their paddock for the 2008 season will be one of the last ones in the pit lane lor!!!
    Got difference meh? Last in but 1st out wor.

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    Default Re: 2007 FORMULA 1™ ING Belgian Grand Prix. (16 Sep.)

    Quote Originally Posted by afbug View Post
    Got difference meh? Last in but 1st out wor.
    Got difference Bro. For the first paddock, the drivers have a way easier route of entry for their pit stop. That is the advantage of being a constructors champion. I've heard this comment from the ITV commentators on numerous occasions.

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    Default Re: 2007 FORMULA 1™ ING Belgian Grand Prix. (16 Sep.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Canew View Post
    Eh! It suddenly struck me. Since McLaren will be the last placed team, that will mean that their paddock for the 2008 season will be one of the last ones in the pit lane lor!!!
    like this... slow entry fast exit.

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    Default Re: 2007 FORMULA 1™ ING Belgian Grand Prix. (16 Sep.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Canew View Post
    GO towards the checkered flag and grab it la!
    last position also can grab checkered flag you know

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    Default Re: 2007 FORMULA 1™ ING Belgian Grand Prix. (16 Sep.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Canew View Post
    Got difference Bro. For the first paddock, the drivers have a way easier route of entry for their pit stop. That is the advantage of being a constructors champion. I've heard this comment from the ITV commentators on numerous occasions.
    I think not much of a diff as 1st in, still got a long way to go before exit. Limit still 80kmh mah.

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    Default Re: 2007 FORMULA 1™ ING Belgian Grand Prix. (16 Sep.)

    The reasons why McLaren was found guilty by the FIA:

    The summarised version

    and

    the full FIA statement

    Interesting point to note that was mentioned in the FIA statement - both Alonso and de la Rosa received full immunity from the FIA in exchange for their testimony. In other words, they would not lose their super licence or face sanctions as long as they co-operated, which they did.

    In light of this, I do not see how either of them can continue in McLaren.

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    Default Re: 2007 FORMULA 1™ ING Belgian Grand Prix. (16 Sep.)

    Quote Originally Posted by RSU View Post
    The reasons why McLaren was found guilty by the FIA:

    The summarised version

    and

    the full FIA statement

    Interesting point to note that was mentioned in the FIA statement - both Alonso and de la Rosa received full immunity from the FIA in exchange for their testimony. In other words, they would not lose their super licence or face sanctions as long as they co-operated, which they did.

    In light of this, I do not see how either of them can continue in McLaren.
    The drivers and McLaren are lucky according to Bernie; McLaren 'came close to exclusion'

    'Ecclestone told the BBC: "It came very close to McLaren being thrown out, it really was a genuine possibility.

    "A few of us sort of battled on and campaigned for the fine instead."

    Had McLaren been thrown out of the championship altogether, it would have meant the end of the drivers' title challenges of both Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso.'

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    Default Re: 2007 FORMULA 1™ ING Belgian Grand Prix. (16 Sep.)

    Looks like ESPN-Starsports has decided that F1 qualifying is not an important event afterall.

    The Starhub guide shows F1 qualifying at 12 midnight tonight

    I'll be cancelling the Sports channel after the F1 season is over.
    The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt....

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    Default Re: 2007 FORMULA 1™ ING Belgian Grand Prix. (16 Sep.)

    Kimi fastest in Q2 so far...
    The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt....

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    Default Re: 2007 FORMULA 1™ ING Belgian Grand Prix. (16 Sep.)

    I hate star sports for denying us the qualifying session

    The order is Kimi, Massa, Alonso, Hamilton. WOW. It should be a cracker of a race.
    The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt....

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    Default Re: 2007 FORMULA 1™ ING Belgian Grand Prix. (16 Sep.)

    Quote Originally Posted by asterixsg View Post
    Looks like ESPN-Starsports has decided that F1 qualifying is not an important event afterall.

    The Starhub guide shows F1 qualifying at 12 midnight tonight

    I'll be cancelling the Sports channel after the F1 season is over.
    and i hate paying the extra $10 just to watch F1 live on Starsports. if Starhub's argument for the price increase is the increase in fee for showing EPL, then why don't they come out with a dedicated EPL package for football fans? why must they bundle the football channel into the Sport package and people like me who don't watch football must pay extra just to catch F1

    anyway, better not let this spoil my mood for tomorrow's race. it's Ferrari 1-2 at the start.

    GO, Ferrari... GO!!!

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    Default Re: 2007 FORMULA 1™ ING Belgian Grand Prix. (16 Sep.)

    Quote Originally Posted by mohgui View Post
    and i hate paying the extra $10 just to watch F1 live on Starsports. if Starhub's argument for the price increase is the increase in fee for showing EPL, then why don't they come out with a dedicated EPL package for football fans? why must they bundle the football channel into the Sport package and people like me who don't watch football must pay extra just to catch F1

    anyway, better not let this spoil my mood for tomorrow's race. it's Ferrari 1-2 at the start.

    GO, Ferrari... GO!!!
    That is their strategy man. Hold u to ransom. Either pay up or suck thumb and cancel. But I think its Starsports rather than Starhub.

    Final qualifying positions for Belgian Grand Prix:
    1. Kimi Raikkonen (Fin) Ferrari 1 min 45.994 secs
    2. Felipe Massa (Bra) Ferrari 1:46.011
    3. Fernando Alonso (Spa) McLaren 1:46.091
    4. Lewis Hamilton (GB) McLaren 1:46.406
    5. Nico Rosberg (Ger) Williams - Toyota 1:47.334
    6. Nick Heidfeld (Ger) BMW Sauber 1:47.409
    7. Mark Webber (Aus) RedBull - Renault 1:47.524
    8. Jarno Trulli (Ita) Toyota 1:47.798
    9. Heikki Kovalainen (Fin) Renault 1:48.505
    10. Giancarlo Fisichella (Ita) Renault 1:46.603
    11. Ralf Schumacher (Ger) Toyota 1:46.618
    12. David Coulthard (GB) RedBull - Renault 1:46.800
    13. Jenson Button (Britain) Honda 1:46.955
    14. Vitantonio Liuzzi (Ita) Toro Rosso - Ferrari 1:47.115
    *15. Robert Kubica (Pol) BMW Sauber 1:46.996
    16. Alexander Wurz (Austria) Williams - Toyota 1:47.394
    17. Sebastian Vettel (Ger) Toro Rosso - Ferrari 1:47.581
    18. Rubens Barrichello (Bra) Honda 1:47.954
    19. Takuma Sato (Jap) Super Aguri - Honda 1:47.980
    20. Adrian Sutil (Ger) Spyker - Ferrari 1:48.044
    21. Anthony Davidson (GB) Super Aguri - Honda 1:48.199
    22. Sakon Yamamoto (Jap) Spyker - Ferrari 1:49.577

    * Demoted 10 places following engine change

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    Quote Originally Posted by afbug View Post
    Well thats the way it is. Media and FIA. Without media, u will not get news. FIA is the governing body, so they have to do something about it. And they also have to protect the interest of the sport and stakeholders. If McLaren got away scot free, do u still have faith in FIA and the sport?

    The McLaren car is obviously not a replica of Ferrari and do not have any Ferrari parts in it. If so, they will be found guilty at the 1st hearing. Its the knowledge, info and experience that Ferrari had and particularly with Bridgestone tyres. The damning evidence is that document remember?

    This scandal might not be damaging to the sport at all. It can also add spice and interest.
    protect the interestet,.... blah blah blah,
    all sound well n tall,
    but was it applied uniformly?

    how some, eh, one team, get away with almost anything?
    or another now retired driver do too?

    how do u feel when lots of tourists snapping away in OUR mrt station
    when we aren't allowed to? (some other bro's post)

    treat every team n driver the same way
    n i'd accept this better.
    4 now, thats plain politics.

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    Default Re: 2007 FORMULA 1™ ING Belgian Grand Prix. (16 Sep.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalas View Post
    protect the interestet,.... blah blah blah,
    all sound well n tall,
    but was it applied uniformly?

    how some, eh, one team, get away with almost anything?
    or another now retired driver do too?

    how do u feel when lots of tourists snapping away in OUR mrt station
    when we aren't allowed to? (some other bro's post)

    treat every team n driver the same way
    n i'd accept this better.
    4 now, thats plain politics.
    How was it applied uniformly, i dunno. I dun work for FIA. Why dun u state some examples? Which team get away with almost anything? Mind u, McLaren is 1 of the biggest team in F1. And what retired driver do?

    So u know the politics in F1? Tell me more about it as I'm not so sure. Which team isn't treated fairly? Spying/stealing is industral espionage, can be throw to jail yeah?

    So before u start blahing, give some examples first.

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