I retract the above statement after reading more into detail. The DO deserves punishment for the lapse in reporting to GSOC Ops Room. No excuses. If he is unable to make the call, he should have delegated somebody to do it. My judgement is still open on the BOS though.And in this particular case, I would say that other than the Guard Comdr, or whoever is manning the desk ensuring that the returning guards return and sign in their ammunition, the other superiors ought to be absolved of responsibility
*Shrug* You are entitled to hold that opinion if you wish. But there is no need for me to prove anythingPls dun mind me saying this but it looks like you dun really understand the workings of the military.
sentries are there to observe any big ****ers who will complain and make you sign if u don't salute when his car enters in or out of the camp.
so this little wayang **** takes up all his attention in looking through the hardly visible car windows and observe the uniform if not the face.
army's wayanging is bullshit, seriously.
No bail for NSman who went missing from camp with a rifle.
By Valerie Tan, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 26 September 2007 2229 hrs
SINGAPORE: The National Serviceman who allegedly stole an army rifle and bullets will not be released on bail.
A psychiatric report submitted to the court today says 20-year-old Dave Teo Ming poses a danger to himself and others.
The full-time NSman was caught early September at Orchard Road armed with a gun and bullets after a 20-hour manhunt.
Prosecution lawyer Francis Ng argued that Dave Teo might contact his camp mates who are potential witnesses in the case.
A five-page psychiatric report submitted to court added that Teo poses a risk to others and himself.
But the judge granted him one phone call to his grandmother.
According to the lawyers, Dave Teo has not had any contact with his family members for the past two weeks.
In court, the judge granted the lawyer some time to speak to the NSman.
In a brief exchange, the lawyer said Dave appeared tired but was concerned about his grandmother and was really keen to be released on bail to see her because she's reported to be very sick with cancer.
K Mathialahan, lawyer for Dave Teo, said: "He was concerned mainly what is going to happen to his grandmother. He found out that his grandmother was seriously ill, so if he's allowed on bail he would like to visit her and spend time with her."
Ong Jun Boon, the other man on trial, was also in court and he has been charged for not reporting Teo's actions to the authorities.
Ong's parents heard that their son can be released on a S$50,000 bail but has to surrender his passport and report to the Criminal Investigations Department daily at 10am.
They have the next two days to arrange for the bail.
Meanwhile, Ong is being represented by lawyer Amolat Singh.
Dave Teo faces three charges for allegedly stealing a rifle from camp, unlawful possession of eight bullets and carrying a knife in a public place without lawful purpose in April this year.
If convicted, he is likely to be jailed a minimum of ten years and given at least 18 strokes of the cane.
The case will be heard again next Wednesday at the Community Court. -CNA/vm
How come this case so fast one?
How abt the guy who test drive the mx-5 one?
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It's turning into a drama serial. Tune in every wednesday. Same time. Same channel.
blazer: heh. I'm also curious to find out. that one should be barred from driving permanently.
guys guys.....seriously and with no disrespect to many vets here. while the system of guard duty is clear to many, the specifics of this case in particular are not released to the public. even i myself do not know, so pls dont speculate who will tio what, etc, this guy career will down the drain etc.
so pls refrain from wild speculation further as confusion will be the only outcome.
[QUOTE=dan_1337;2947523]if it was painted white, it would cost twice as much as Sigma =P[QUOTE]
this ten years does not included going to kranji for a long long time
So which D are you from? LSD? ISD? MSD?
Anyway, I do believe the ministry has valid reasons for not disclosing the specifics of the case. Although the public has the right to know... they do not really have the need to know What they need to know is that whoever is wrong/responsible gets punished, systems and procedures get refined to prevent a repeat incident... yeah, something to that extent.
Last edited by Yatlapball; 27th September 2007 at 02:21 AM.