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    Default Flickr, censorship & Singapore; anyone feel like starting a brawl?

    Recently Flickr has come to the attention of web users all over the world for it's aggressive usage of censors on content uploaded to the Flickr website in Germany, or rather, to German users. Many articles published over the web and countless more discussions over it later, and Flickr has stepped down slightly, allowing 'moderate' content to be viewed, one level up from the basic and default 'safe', and one level down from 'restricted', which German users aren't able to view.

    Sounds great right? There's just one problem. Many users didn't even bother to notice that Germany used to be in the same category as 3 other countries, and that category is the 'sorry mate, you're only allowed to view images flagged as safe'. Those three countries are South Korea, Singapore, and Hong Kong (well alright, 2 countries since Hong Kong is a SAR). So while Germany is allowed to view images marked moderate, Singapore, a country that employs censorship on a MUCH SMALLER scale than Germany still can't view those moderate and restricted images. Consider that in Germany video games aren't allowed to have red colour blood, and many, many games are blocked from even entering the country in the first place, nevermind having to be modified to have blue or yellow blood in-game.

    It wouldn't be so bad if you only couldn't view images that were really unsavory, except that isn't the case. A quick venture into the Flickr forums and the numerous threads on censorship that flood the place and you'll quickly realise that the Flickr team is all too quick to flag photos, even photos without actual PEOPLE in it to be committing the sexual acts the pictures are flagged unsafe for. And that's not the only problem. Accounts with a thousand 'safe' photos and just one unsafe photo will be completely unviewable to Singaporean users, so it's not just a case of not being able to see just one picture in that person's account.

    I've raised the issue at the official Flickr forums and you can read it here:

    http://flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/52019/

    Sadly, no one seems to give a ****.
    Last edited by jmmtn4aj; 2nd September 2007 at 12:51 AM.

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    Default Re: Flickr, censorship & Singapore; anyone feel like starting a brawl?

    Well, lucky for me, I used an international account... wonder if there's any block then?
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    What's the issue?

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    Seems like they have blocked all those who uses a Singapore IP, registered in SG or not...
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    Default Re: Flickr, censorship & Singapore; anyone feel like starting a brawl?

    Here in Shanghai I can't even see anything in Flickr. Even my own website is blocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian View Post
    Here in Shanghai I can't even see anything in Flickr. Even my own website is blocked.
    Woah... tat's even worse...
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian View Post
    Here in Shanghai I can't even see anything in Flickr. Even my own website is blocked.
    There are ways to get around it

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    Well , depend where you are, I guess all photowebsites were subject to censorship and depend on how subjective the contents is.
    Think of concepts and work towards it.

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    luckily i gave up flickr after 1 week of use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nisa View Post
    There are ways to get around it
    Register yourself as Hu Jintao and see whether anyone dare to lock you or not?

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    got.. PLA will knock on your house and lock you up!
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    Default Re: Flickr, censorship & Singapore; anyone feel like starting a brawl?

    ah i used proxy sites to surf the net when i was staying there in shanghai.
    sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmmtn4aj View Post
    So while Germany is allowed to view images marked moderate, Singapore, a country that employs censorship on a MUCH SMALLER scale than Germany still can't view those moderate and restricted images.
    While there are efforts to turn Germany into a police state, they're not quite there yet and censorship is still outlawed by the constitution. Feel free to compare Germany's and Singapore's standings in RSF's annual press freedom index here: http://www.rsf.org/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=639

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    My flickr account just got marked as unsafe and I have no idea why. Perhaps it was that photo of a figure I sculpted, made of clay?

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    I concur, this is the first time that I'm experiencing such censorship.

    Note: If your Yahoo! ID is based in Singapore, Hong Kong or Korea you will only be able to view safe content based on your local Terms of Service so won’t be able to turn SafeSearch off. If your Yahoo! ID is based in Germany you are not able to view restricted content due to your local Terms of Service.

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    Default Re: Flickr, censorship & Singapore; anyone feel like starting a brawl?

    I wonder what they censor...

    I only just bought the membership.


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    Quote Originally Posted by airforce1 View Post
    Well , depend where you are, I guess all photowebsites were subject to censorship and depend on how subjective the contents is.
    does porn photo site got censorship???

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    Default Re: Flickr, censorship & Singapore; anyone feel like starting a brawl?

    why i never encounter such cases of blocking b4?
    how to know it's safe or not safe?

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