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    Quote Originally Posted by Bored Dad View Post
    No offence. but actually, I don't find it wrong to carry a woman's handbag, especially if the handbag have too many things inside and it's getting heavy for the woman.

    It takes a greater man that is secured and confident of himself that is able to help a woman with her handbag.
    err.... ok, if you say so.

    but why pay $$$ for a handbag and ask the man to carry it?
    It is a fashion accessory you know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bored Dad View Post
    No offence. but actually, I don't find it wrong to carry a woman's handbag, especially if the handbag have too many things inside and it's getting heavy for the woman.

    It takes a greater man that is secured and confident of himself that is able to help a woman with her handbag.
    on the other hand, if the woman is secured and confident of herself, why does she need to get her boyfriend/husband to carry her handbag?

    Quote Originally Posted by ortega View Post
    err.... ok, if you say so.

    but why pay $$$ for a handbag and ask the man to carry it?
    It is a fashion accessory you know
    good point. one thing i still find amazing (or unbelievable) about men's fashion sense in tokyo ... there are actually men who own lady handbags and it seems like an acceptable trend

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    Quote Originally Posted by eikin View Post
    on the other hand, if the woman is secured and confident of herself, why does she need to get her boyfriend/husband to carry her handbag?



    good point. one thing i still find amazing (or unbelievable) about men's fashion sense in tokyo ... there are actually men who own lady handbags and it seems like an acceptable trend
    oh i must be out of fashion then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Potter View Post
    Not true, it protects our gf and wife. Gf and wife are part of our family too.
    Yes, it does protects the ladies, but who protects the man ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitkat View Post
    Yes, it does protects the ladies, but who protects the man ?
    Man is supposed to be the defender, the protector of our Nation.

    We, men is not wimp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Potter View Post
    Man is supposed to be the defender, the protector of our Nation.

    We, men is not wimp.
    easy for you to say... you are protected by your "mother's" spell.
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    This article was written in 02... now 07 liao and still not "family charter".

    Quote Originally Posted by Lam-Teo
    Lam-Teo notes that as long as women are primary, if not sole, caretakers of the family, they will have to make career sacrifices, which in turn affect their economic independence, status and quality of life. "Under these circumstances I would say, in fact, the law on maintenance and division of assets should be weighted in favor of women," she argues
    Aniway, I'm confused with the last para as quoted.... if woman is primary caretakers, maintainence and assets should be weighted in their favor. So what happens when man is the caretaker, making similar (if not more) economic sacrifices. Can man even claim maintenance and more assets? Noting the below quotes:

    Quote Originally Posted by Lam-Teo
    AWARE points out recent statistics, which show that in at least 100,000 households in Singapore, men are unable to fulfill their expected traditional roles and their wives have become the de facto head and sole provider for the family.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lam-Teo
    Where a woman earns more or equal to her husband, she is either advised not to claim or is awarded a token sum.
    Also, how come the charter have no provision for exploiting or abuse of it, examples as quoted in the same article.

    Quote Originally Posted by Asia Times
    The recent call for changes also comes in the wake of a rash of cases, some involving "mail-order" brides from mainland China, where women filed for divorce after short marriages to wealthy men, then claimed half the husband's assets. This led critics to conclude that "gold digger women" - apparently not the financially-independent women Xie was referring to - were exploiting the charter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYRN View Post
    easy for you to say... you are protected by your "mother's" spell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CYRN View Post
    Aniway, I'm confused with the last para as quoted.... if woman is primary caretakers, maintainence and assets should be weighted in their favor. So what happens when man is the caretaker, making similar (if not more) economic sacrifices. Can man even claim maintenance and more assets? Noting the below quotes:
    what happens when the primary caretaker is a domestic helper instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eikin View Post
    what happens when the primary caretaker is a domestic helper instead?
    still woman.
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    pay the maid maintenance? hehe!

    Quote Originally Posted by eikin View Post
    what happens when the primary caretaker is a domestic helper instead?

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    'Lam-Teo' must be a 'independent' married woman. rare for such nick to appear in CS. Lam-Teo or Teo Lam? i am confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reachme2003 View Post
    'Lam-Teo' must be a 'independent' married woman. rare for such nick to appear in CS. Lam-Teo or Teo Lam? i am confused.
    wah.. follow the link to the article lah.
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    to quote from the article ''AWARE points out recent statistics, which show that in at least 100,000 households in Singapore, men are unable to fulfill their expected traditional roles and their wives have become the de facto head and sole provider for the family.''



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    thanks. before that, i suspected it could be dana lam. yes, it is her. nice lady, whom i knew many years ago. we worked on a photography project, a day in singapore.


    Quote Originally Posted by CYRN View Post
    wah.. follow the link to the article lah.

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    so, why not Aware appeal to the law minister to to repeal the charter or at least some part/s of the charter or update the charter to reflect changing role of married male/female roles.


    Quote Originally Posted by eikin View Post
    to quote from the article ''AWARE points out recent statistics, which show that in at least 100,000 households in Singapore, men are unable to fulfill their expected traditional roles and their wives have become the de facto head and sole provider for the family.''



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    so, why not appeal to the law minister to to repeal the charter or at least some part/s of the charter or update the charter to reflect changing role of married male/female. is 100,000 households significant?


    Quote Originally Posted by eikin View Post
    to quote from the article ''AWARE points out recent statistics, which show that in at least 100,000 households in Singapore, men are unable to fulfill their expected traditional roles and their wives have become the de facto head and sole provider for the family.''



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    Quote Originally Posted by reachme2003 View Post
    so, why not appeal to the law minister to to repeal the charter or at least some part/s of the charter or update the charter to reflect changing role of married male/female. is 100,000 households significant?
    cos got no hoo-ha over it yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sORe-EyEz View Post
    cos got no hoo-ha over it yet?
    cause singapore men too quiet. mouth all shut.

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