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    Quote Originally Posted by richliow View Post
    its fair,
    cos when one uses pirated things.
    one knows he cant be on the correct side of the law....
    so one does it knowing the consequences....
    and is prepared for the possibility of consequences...
    though he might not accept the consequences....

    but be a man..........if one spits/litter on the floor, and get caught by ah beng,
    who reports him to the police...and the ah beng get commended by the police....
    its better to do the CWO... corrective work order...
    than to go around.....saying
    "hey....the Ah beng has no right to report me....he also spits mah....."
    so please be a man and go report yourselves to the police now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eikin View Post
    so please be a man and go report yourselves to the police now.
    will you join me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richliow View Post
    its fair,
    cos when one uses pirated things.
    one knows he cant be on the correct side of the law....
    so one does it knowing the consequences....
    and is prepared for the possibility of consequences...
    though he might not accept the consequences....

    but be a man..........if one spits/litter on the floor, and get caught by ah beng,
    who reports him to the police...and the ah beng get commended by the police....
    its better to do the CWO... corrective work order...
    than to go around.....saying
    "hey....the Ah beng has no right to report me....he also spits mah....."
    the day that an ah beng report me for spiting is the day i look up and see pigs flying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richliow View Post
    will you join me?
    i don't buy pirated you ought to go to the police station now you know

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    Quote Originally Posted by garou12 View Post
    the day that an ah beng report me for spiting is the day i look up and see pigs flying.
    some ah bengs go church one okay...
    they surrender themselves to the Lord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richliow View Post
    some ah bengs go church one okay...
    they surrender themselves to the Lord.
    are you trying to preach here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eikin View Post
    i don't buy pirated you ought to go to the police station now you know
    really?
    never ever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eikin View Post
    are you trying to preach here?
    what do you think or suggest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richliow View Post
    really?
    never ever?
    you want to come and go through my CD collection? you'll need to fly yourself to japan though, see you soon

    oh btw, don't try twisting your way out of this. you should really go to the police station already.
    Last edited by eikin; 21st August 2007 at 08:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eikin View Post
    you want to come and go through my CD collection? you'll need to fly yourself to japan though, see you soon

    aiyah...no need to search your CD collection,
    searching one's own conscience will know liao =)

    so let's go to the police together..

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    Quote Originally Posted by richliow View Post
    aiyah...no need to search your CD collection,
    searching one's own conscience will know liao =)

    so let's go to the police together..
    you're accusing me? what kind of right do you have? oh, you're feeling guilty and will like to implicate others to join you? come on, be a man, you said it

    Quote Originally Posted by richliow View Post
    its fair,
    cos when one uses pirated things.
    one knows he cant be on the correct side of the law....
    so one does it knowing the consequences....
    and is prepared for the possibility of consequences...
    though he might not accept the consequences....

    but be a man..........if one spits/litter on the floor, and get caught by ah beng,
    who reports him to the police...and the ah beng get commended by the police....
    its better to do the CWO... corrective work order...
    than to go around.....saying
    "hey....the Ah beng has no right to report me....he also spits mah....."
    since you're so holy

    i'll just like to add that my world is different from yours. in my world, only the lawful court can judge whether a person has committed a crime, not some profit seeking organisation.

    in your world, anyone can judge you for your wrong doings. you should go to the police station now.
    Last edited by eikin; 21st August 2007 at 09:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richliow View Post
    some ah bengs go church one okay...
    they surrender themselves to the Lord.
    So? people's religious beliefs got nothing to do with being beng.

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    i think that what shinken is saying is right.

    firstly, odex is not belting out "punishment" like the government does when you spit. the government does that to deter people from spitting. it is their right as the government to fine you because you have part in the social contract with the state. your example of the ahbeng reporting you is not analogous simply because who ever reporting you, the fine is paid to the state, not the ah beng. in odex's case, the ahbeng is fining you and putting the money in his pocket.

    on the other hand, odex is asking for "compensation for lost of profits", the motives are different. odex as a private entity is asking for compensation for the lost of sales.

    the question here is, is $5000 a fair sum.
    Last edited by hacknet; 21st August 2007 at 10:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richliow View Post
    what do you think or suggest?
    i suggest you read this forum's term of use one more time http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=63954

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    Just a reminder to all. Stick to the topic.

    To those that have cross the line, pls get urself back in. The next time will be an infractions. Search one's own conscience.. you know who you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hacknet View Post

    the question here is, is $5000 a fair sum.
    well, if the question here is, is really $5000 a fair sum...?
    i thinks it a valid question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eikin View Post
    you're accusing me? what kind of right do you have? oh, you're feeling guilty and will like to implicate others to join you? come on, be a man, you said it

    since you're so holy

    i'll just like to add that my world is different from yours. in my world, only the lawful court can judge whether a person has committed a crime, not some profit seeking organisation.

    in your world, anyone can judge you for your wrong doings. you should go to the police station now.
    Well said,
    since you can accuse me, why cant i accuse you?
    if you can tell me to be a man to turn myself in, why cant you be a man too to turn yourself in? =)

    my world is not different from your world.
    its always good versus bad in basics.
    ODEX is not the judge for morals...
    ODEX is merely positioned in my arguments as one of the consequences for doing bad.
    And when you are caught in such consequences, you accept the punishment, thats all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richliow View Post
    Well said,
    since you can accuse me, why cant i accuse you?
    if you can tell me to be a man to turn myself in, why cant you be a man too to turn yourself in? =)

    my world is not different from your world.
    its always good versus bad in basics.
    ODEX is not the judge for morals...
    ODEX is merely positioned in my arguments as one of the consequences for doing bad.
    And when you are caught in such consequences, you accept the punishment, thats all.
    well you can go ahead and live in your own lala land governed by your own ideals, or just swallow your own words. goodnight

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    Quote Originally Posted by eikin View Post
    well you can go ahead and live in your own lala land governed by your own ideals, or just swallow your own words. goodnight
    Yawn!!! its time indeed...good night
    continue to live the grey life, yeah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by richliow View Post
    Yawn!!! its time indeed...good night
    continue to live the grey life, yeah!
    man...do you understand what ts wants...legal advise...you are giving utter rubbis*...

    can you give proper legal advise that ts is seeking...

    if not please read here

    and here

    here too

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