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    Default Re: Odex Directors wanna sue anime downloaders in Singapore.

    Quote Originally Posted by eikin View Post
    they twisted the viewpoint?
    maybe... but definitely not facts!
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    Default Re: Odex Directors wanna sue anime downloaders in Singapore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesecake View Post
    nope. i dun download animes. i watch them online.
    Some of the streaming fan subbed sites are getting more strict to avoid infringing copyrights.

    Recently alot of video has been removed.

    Online manga next on list liao...

    Kidz who can't afford to buy, better stick to central.

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    The list is here.. last time i saw bleach wasn't on the list. Now it is...
    http://avpas.com.sg/AVPAS_Authorized.html
    Last edited by Static; 17th August 2007 at 04:16 PM.
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    Default Re: Odex Directors wanna sue anime downloaders in Singapore.

    2 of the animes i watched not there..

    Gatekeepers and Flame of Recca... muhahahaha....

    Yukikaze also not inside ....

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    Default Re: Odex Directors wanna sue anime downloaders in Singapore.

    Quote Originally Posted by glennyong View Post
    2 of the animes i watched not there..

    Gatekeepers and Flame of Recca... muhahahaha....

    Yukikaze also not inside ....
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    Default Re: Odex Directors wanna sue anime downloaders in Singapore.

    but i will fight. because many people i know has been affected...

    i will fight for their right. and they better fight for theirs too !

    if any Csers received a letter from ODEX. do not pay them. do not go into case with them.

    help is on the way.

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    Default Re: Odex Directors wanna sue anime downloaders in Singapore.

    I wonder if anyone got sued for downloading hentai...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesecake View Post
    maybe... but definitely not facts!
    o really? Then what were the facts that was reported in the paper? Maybe i misread them. Prehaps you'd like to inform them and write your rebuttal to them then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennyong View Post
    but i will fight. because many people i know has been affected...

    i will fight for their right. and they better fight for theirs too !

    if any Csers received a letter from ODEX. do not pay them. do not go into case with them.

    help is on the way.
    r u a lawyer?

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    Default Re: Odex Directors wanna sue anime downloaders in Singapore.

    Quote Originally Posted by drakon09 View Post
    I wonder if anyone got sued for downloading hentai...
    if there's any legal distributor to begin with

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    Quote Originally Posted by Static View Post
    Some of the streaming fan subbed sites are getting more strict to avoid infringing copyrights.

    Recently alot of video has been removed.

    Online manga next on list liao...

    Kidz who can't afford to buy, better stick to central.

    (o.o)y



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    The list is here.. last time i saw bleach wasn't on the list. Now it is...
    http://avpas.com.sg/AVPAS_Authorized.html
    I'm not buying their products. at all then. Hope and pray for them to go bust soon. Maybe its a good thing the anime scene go bankrupt here so we can go back to watching better quality fansubs without being hassled. Glad i stopped following anime.
    Last edited by garou12; 17th August 2007 at 04:39 PM.

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    Default Re: Odex Directors wanna sue anime downloaders in Singapore.

    an extract from HWZ

    Section 136 states following:-

    136. (1) A person who at a time when copyright subsists in a work

    (a) makes for sale or hire;
    (b) sells or lets for hire, or by way of trade offers or exposes for sale or hire; or
    (c) by way of trade exhibits in public,

    any article which he knows, or ought reasonably to know, to be an infringing copy of the work shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $10,000 for the article or for each article in respect of which the offence was committed or $100,000, whichever is the lower, or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years or to both.

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    confirm many people will be saved.

    You Download and watch yourself. You did not;

    A) Distribute
    B) Sell for Profit
    c) Display or project in public.

    in short... anyone who receive the letter SHOULD not pay and lawyers should know that this case is full of loopholes and this is one of them.

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    Default Re: Odex Directors wanna sue anime downloaders in Singapore.

    Quote Originally Posted by garou12 View Post
    r u a lawyer?
    apparently not.

    i am a ClubSNAP superuser...

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    Default Re: Odex Directors wanna sue anime downloaders in Singapore.

    Quote Originally Posted by glennyong View Post
    an extract from HWZ

    Section 136 states following:-

    136. (1) A person who at a time when copyright subsists in a work

    (a) makes for sale or hire;
    (b) sells or lets for hire, or by way of trade offers or exposes for sale or hire; or
    (c) by way of trade exhibits in public,

    any article which he knows, or ought reasonably to know, to be an infringing copy of the work shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $10,000 for the article or for each article in respect of which the offence was committed or $100,000, whichever is the lower, or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years or to both.

    ------------------

    confirm many people will be saved.

    You Download and watch yourself. You did not;

    A) Distribute
    B) Sell for Profit
    c) Display or project in public.

    in short... anyone who receive the letter SHOULD not pay and lawyers should know that this case is full of loopholes and this is one of them.
    hmmm ... as mentioned, i was wondering why the downloaders are penalised instead of the uploaders

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    Default Re: Odex Directors wanna sue anime downloaders in Singapore.

    Quote Originally Posted by glennyong View Post
    an extract from HWZ

    Section 136 states following:-

    136. (1) A person who at a time when copyright subsists in a work

    (a) makes for sale or hire;
    (b) sells or lets for hire, or by way of trade offers or exposes for sale or hire; or
    (c) by way of trade exhibits in public,

    any article which he knows, or ought reasonably to know, to be an infringing copy of the work shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $10,000 for the article or for each article in respect of which the offence was committed or $100,000, whichever is the lower, or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years or to both.

    ------------------

    confirm many people will be saved.

    You Download and watch yourself. You did not;

    A) Distribute
    B) Sell for Profit
    c) Display or project in public.

    in short... anyone who receive the letter SHOULD not pay and lawyers should know that this case is full of loopholes and this is one of them.
    yea that's the way copyright law is written here. The problem is that the people targeted dunnoe that and never consult a lawyer. Hopefully tomorrow's gathering will change that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennyong View Post
    apparently not.

    i am a ClubSNAP superuser...
    that doesn't do me any good in court. Unless superuser = super donor for lawyer fees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garou12 View Post
    yea that's the way copyright law is written here. The problem is that the people targeted dunnoe that and never consult a lawyer. Hopefully tomorrow's gathering will change that.
    Hopefully there will be a noble and honest lawyer (oxymoron? ) who is willing to assist in all the legalities - and then put (o.o)y out of business.

    I tell you, instant hero-status overnight la...

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    Quote Originally Posted by drakon09 View Post
    Hopefully there will be a noble and honest lawyer (oxymoron? ) who is willing to assist in all the legalities - and then put (o.o)y out of business.

    I tell you, instant hero-status overnight la...
    that would be the dream...

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    Quote Originally Posted by garou12 View Post
    that would be the dream...
    Actually yesterday's papers already stated that Odex has the legal upperhand and they most likely will win any court case against downloads. However I am more concerned about what is considered an illegal download? Downloading their anime yes but what if I am downloading virtually unknown animes that they have no rights on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by centuryegg View Post
    Actually yesterday's papers already stated that Odex has the legal upperhand and they most likely will win any court case against downloads. However I am more concerned about what is considered an illegal download? Downloading their anime yes but what if I am downloading virtually unknown animes that they have no rights on?
    i wonder how many people know that they are the legal distributor prior to this anyway

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    That's why I'm supporting the HWZ people as this is a blank cheque exercise.

    I've not even the slightest idea what is the most popular anime series.

    It's like a David versus Goliath, on one hand you've a greedy company and the yound kids.

    They'll need all the help from a good IP lawyer.

    Quote Originally Posted by centuryegg View Post
    Actually yesterday's papers already stated that Odex has the legal upperhand and they most likely will win any court case against downloads. However I am more concerned about what is considered an illegal download? Downloading their anime yes but what if I am downloading virtually unknown animes that they have no rights on?

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