fish eye?

monkeyjopaw · 14th August 2007

i saw a peleng and a zenitar fish eye lens on ebay for 4/3 a couple of days back... do they really make the lens in the 4/3 mount? anybody seen/used one?

holidaydom · 14th August 2007

I think you'll need an adaptor for that to work.

Mikefellh · 14th August 2007

Some of those lenses come with the adapter already attached, locked in place with a set screw so the adapter can't be removed. It depends on who you order it from, some places (one in Toronto) that don't even offer the 4/3 or OM adapters.

As well I wouldn't waste time with the 16mm Zenitar lens...although it is a fisheye, on the 4/3 camera the effect may be cancelled out; I once saw a used 16mm Sigma fisheye (OM mount) going for an excellent price, but before buying I went to the store selling and asked to try it out...what a disappointment, although it was a fisheye the effect was totally cancelled out and the 14 position of my 14-45mm kit lens was noticably wider!!! I suspect you'd see a similar effect with the Zenitar (unless you want a prime with that focal length knowing that your kit lens may be wider).

henqe · 14th August 2007

I have the Peleng 8mm. It is delivered with a M42 screw mount adapter on which a 4/3 adapter can be fittet (delivered together for me). Works very well, no problem using it as a manual lens. Very large DOF and metering works well.

holidaydom · 14th August 2007

Originally Posted by henqe

I have the Peleng 8mm. It is delivered with a M42 screw mount adapter on which a 4/3 adapter can be fittet (delivered together for me). Works very well, no problem using it as a manual lens. Very large DOF and metering works well.

Wow! - So does it give you a fisheye effect or just an ultra-wide?

Possible to upload a couple of pics to share?

henqe · 14th August 2007

It's fisheye and because of the 4/3 sensor size, the corners are not black just a tiny bit dark. Don't think it really gives a 180 degrees view on 4/3 though. Hard to keep your feet out of the picture anyway

I have some testshots from the first days of using the Peleng here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/henrik.lewander
Look under Fisheye

VR Man · 15th August 2007

Originally Posted by henqe

It's fisheye and because of the 4/3 sensor size, the corners are not black just a tiny bit dark. Don't think it really gives a 180 degrees view on 4/3 though. Hard to keep your feet out of the picture anyway

I have some testshots from the first days of using the Peleng here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/henrik.lewander
Look under Fisheye

Thanks for sharing

So the circular image is gone? "cancelled" out by the 4/3 mount?

VSonic06 · 15th August 2007

instead of a circular image the peleng becomes a full frame fisheye when used on 4/3... just like oly's pricey ZD 8mm. Peleng is much cheaper too.

VR Man · 15th August 2007

Originally Posted by VSonic06

instead of a circular image the peleng becomes a full frame fisheye when used on 4/3... just like oly's pricey ZD 8mm. Peleng is much cheaper too.

Thanks for the info.

I wonder will Oly make a circular ZD fisheye down the road... Guess not huh...

henqe · 15th August 2007

Originally Posted by VR Man

Thanks for the info.

I wonder will Oly make a circular ZD fisheye down the road... Guess not huh...

It can be done with lots of converters

I saw some guy doing it for APS-C.

holidaydom · 16th August 2007

Thanks for sharing Henqe; nice set of photos you got there...

henqe · 16th August 2007

Thanks, this fisheye effect is really really really fun to play with but it will get old very fast.

Mikefellh · 16th August 2007

Originally Posted by henqe

Thanks, this fisheye effect is really really really fun to play with but it will get old very fast.

But then you can defish the fisheye image and have a very wide angle lens for a cheap price (vs. the price of a 7-14mm).

VSonic06 · 16th August 2007

Originally Posted by VR Man

I wonder will Oly make a circular ZD fisheye down the road... Guess not huh...

That would be a ZD 4mm FE

I imagine the glass will be quite a bulge

holidaydom · 17th August 2007

Originally Posted by henqe

Thanks, this fisheye effect is really really really fun to play with but it will get old very fast.

I have a friend who shot a series of children's portraits with a fisyeye and had them make funny faces... turned out really nice.

But you are right in a way... a fisheye is really loads of fun but it's more of a specialized lens so to speak.

VR Man · 18th August 2007

Originally Posted by VSonic06

That would be a ZD 4mm FE I imagine the glass will be quite a bulge

The bigger the better

Mikefellh · 19th August 2007

Like the bulge on this lens (love the built-in filter feature):
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography...yes/8mmf28.htm

holidaydom · 20th August 2007

Originally Posted by Mikefellh

Like the bulge on this lens (love the built-in filter feature):
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography...yes/8mmf28.htm

Man - that is one wicked looking lens~!!

VR Man · 20th August 2007

The Nikon 6mm would be sweet to have. It has a 220˚ field of view, the lens actually captures "backwards"

It was a made-to-order lens costing USD$20k many years ago.

tao · 20th August 2007

Originally Posted by henqe

It's fisheye and because of the 4/3 sensor size, the corners are not black just a tiny bit dark. Don't think it really gives a 180 degrees view on 4/3 though. Hard to keep your feet out of the picture anyway

I have some testshots from the first days of using the Peleng here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/henrik.lewander
Look under Fisheye

Excellent images you got there.

How much did you pay for the peleng fisheye? Where did you manage to buy it?

14th August 2007	#1
monkeyjopaw Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 141	fish eye? i saw a peleng and a zenitar fish eye lens on ebay for 4/3 a couple of days back... do they really make the lens in the 4/3 mount? anybody seen/used one?

14th August 2007	#2
holidaydom Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 885	Re: fish eye? I think you'll need an adaptor for that to work. __________________ Happiness is a state of mind.

14th August 2007	#3
Mikefellh Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,460	Re: fish eye? Some of those lenses come with the adapter already attached, locked in place with a set screw so the adapter can't be removed. It depends on who you order it from, some places (one in Toronto) that don't even offer the 4/3 or OM adapters. As well I wouldn't waste time with the 16mm Zenitar lens...although it is a fisheye, on the 4/3 camera the effect may be cancelled out; I once saw a used 16mm Sigma fisheye (OM mount) going for an excellent price, but before buying I went to the store selling and asked to try it out...what a disappointment, although it was a fisheye the effect was totally cancelled out and the 14 position of my 14-45mm kit lens was noticably wider!!! I suspect you'd see a similar effect with the Zenitar (unless you want a prime with that focal length knowing that your kit lens may be wider).

14th August 2007	#4
henqe New Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 16	Re: fish eye? I have the Peleng 8mm. It is delivered with a M42 screw mount adapter on which a 4/3 adapter can be fittet (delivered together for me). Works very well, no problem using it as a manual lens. Very large DOF and metering works well.

14th August 2007	#6
henqe New Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 16	Re: fish eye? It's fisheye and because of the 4/3 sensor size, the corners are not black just a tiny bit dark. Don't think it really gives a 180 degrees view on 4/3 though. Hard to keep your feet out of the picture anyway I have some testshots from the first days of using the Peleng here: http://picasaweb.google.com/henrik.lewander Look under Fisheye

15th August 2007	#8
VSonic06 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 808	Re: fish eye? instead of a circular image the peleng becomes a full frame fisheye when used on 4/3... just like oly's pricey ZD 8mm. Peleng is much cheaper too.

16th August 2007	#11
holidaydom Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 885	Re: fish eye? Thanks for sharing Henqe; nice set of photos you got there... __________________ Happiness is a state of mind.

16th August 2007	#12
henqe New Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 16	Re: fish eye? Thanks, this fisheye effect is really really really fun to play with but it will get old very fast.

19th August 2007	#17
Mikefellh Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,460	Re: fish eye? Like the bulge on this lens (love the built-in filter feature): http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography...yes/8mmf28.htm

20th August 2007	#19
VR Man Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 344	Re: fish eye? The Nikon 6mm would be sweet to have. It has a 220˚ field of view, the lens actually captures "backwards" It was a made-to-order lens costing USD$20k many years ago.