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    i've encountered singaporean ungraciousness too in Marche (Vivocity). i was sitting next to a table of a group of 10 twenty-somethings. from their look, i reckon they are u-graduates and some could be holding a top jobs (from the things they talk about).

    well, the story is, after they've eaten and their tables cleared of crockeries, they remained at the table talking-****, sing-song and play mahjong. all these while, not ordering anything to eat. this goes on for a good half-an hour or so.

    the duty manager have been seen asking them (a number of times) if they would still want to eat. if not, would prefer if they give up their table bcoz the restaurant is damn crowded and there's a long queue outside. however, this bunch of people are still at it without eating. they sat there for a little while more and then finally made their way out.

    i was thinking, these are the future of singapore and it's a shame that such a behaviour is still seen. the effort by the government to promote a more gracious society seems to be fruitless.

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    think we're betta off w/ a smaller population?

    dun need to "fight" so hard for space...

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    o i've gotten looks and off color remarks in chinese because the people i encountered at hawker centres don't want to share their empty table and think that i don't speak the language...then i shock them by telling them off in the language...
    Last edited by garou12; 5th August 2007 at 04:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohgui View Post
    i've encountered singaporean ungraciousness too in Marche (Vivocity). i was sitting next to a table of a group of 10 twenty-somethings. from their look, i reckon they are u-graduates and some could be holding a top jobs (from the things they talk about).

    well, the story is, after they've eaten and their tables cleared of crockeries, they remained at the table talking-****, sing-song and play mahjong. all these while, not ordering anything to eat. this goes on for a good half-an hour or so.

    the duty manager have been seen asking them (a number of times) if they would still want to eat. if not, would prefer if they give up their table bcoz the restaurant is damn crowded and there's a long queue outside. however, this bunch of people are still at it without eating. they sat there for a little while more and then finally made their way out.

    i was thinking, these are the future of singapore and it's a shame that such a behaviour is still seen. the effort by the government to promote a more gracious society seems to be fruitless.
    I'm not surprised. Many youngsters these days (even the more educated ones) truly lack sensitivity and common sense.

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    To TS, I feel for you bro, encountered similar bengs before. That said, you shouldn't have deleted the photo... after all, it's a public place. If he gets physical, lodge a police report. Thugs have to be dealt that way.

    As to the thoughts on why people have become seemingly high-strung (not because of work stress, that's a different story), here's my view. It's not exactly kiasu-ism, but close. The relentless marketing and consumerism these days have had a rather heavy impact on the, shall we say, on the feeble minded. It's more painful because most of these lemmings don't really have the financial strength/earning power to really live it up to the marketing crap they have been exposed/brainwashed to. Most are living lives they can't afford. So you see folks, when these feeble lemmings put themselves in such tight spots (rolling credit card bills, car loans, etc), it would be yoga-like for the lemmings to behave civil. My sympathies to the wretched bastids.

    So it's not really a Singaporean thing. More like "Ugly Lemmings Blues".

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowspeeder View Post
    I'm not surprised. Many youngsters these days (even the more educated ones) truly lack sensitivity and common sense.
    Educated or not has very little to do with strength of mind/character. And it doesn't help that their parents taught them and brought them up poorly.

    See my post above. Youngsters these days are actually poor victims being subjected relentlessly by "Jedi Mind-Tricks" of their surroundings. Tough town, weak minds, bad behaviour,... that's really all there is to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowspeeder View Post
    I'm not surprised. Many youngsters these days (even the more educated ones) truly lack sensitivity and common sense.
    That's because they are not taught, trained, practiced and most importantly "disciplined" to do so. Scholastical education level alone does not define the amount of "sensitivity and common sense".

    Humans are habitual creatures. Graciousness has to be instilled and guided from young by the parents to make it a habit.

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    Like I always tell ppl who complain, grumble or are unhappy about some incident that they have been unfairly treated, snobbed, etc.

    It's a jungle out there, where werewolves, lions are just out to devour you. You cant change their thinking or their mannerisms,etc. NO WAY! but you can surely change the way you respond to them.

    I wonder how he will respond if you say, "Hey, I waited here first but you must be very hungry, go ahead, you can have the table first".

    Maybe, just maybe, he might invite you to join him and then you've made a friend!
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    Quote Originally Posted by eng_keow View Post
    Like I always tell ppl who complain, grumble or are unhappy about some incident that they have been unfairly treated, snobbed, etc.

    It's a jungle out there, where werewolves, lions are just out to devour you. You cant change their thinking or their mannerisms,etc. NO WAY! but you can surely change the way you respond to them.

    I wonder how he will respond if you say, "Hey, I waited here first but you must be very hungry, go ahead, you can have the table first".

    Maybe, just maybe, he might invite you to join him and then you've made a friend!
    such respond would b so rare, mayb tt street beng could respond by calling me crazy. as w/ most action local reaction would b more of d same "hey, i was here 1st"!

    & i would hav reaponded likewise being a local. how we respond is influenzed by how we were treated mah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sORe-EyEz View Post
    such respond would b so rare, mayb tt street beng could respond by calling me crazy. as w/ most action local reaction would b more of d same "hey, i was here 1st"!

    & i would hav reaponded likewise being a local. how we respond is influenzed by how we were treated mah.
    Or maybe u should stop judging other like.. little time street beng?

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    Whoever steals your table I suggest you bare your fangs and let hairs come out of your arms to show them you mean business:


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    Quote Originally Posted by LENS View Post
    Or maybe u should stop judging other like.. little time street beng?
    do i always?
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    [QUOTE=Sion;3284379]Whoever steals your table I suggest you bare your fangs and let hairs come out of your arms to show them you mean business:

    so guys will turn into Wolverine or Incredible Hulk?

    no gd eh, nx time u c security guards + another price increase!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sORe-EyEz View Post
    do i always?
    actually i mean TS =) .. judging little time beng and then take photo to protest seems like a rude act too. the little time beng may really not knowing someone is waiting for the seat =) even he saw TS standing. Just my opinion =)

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    How about parking? Did anyone steal the parking lot you have been waiting for? It happened to me at the Waterloo St underground car park. After that, the beng carkpark lot thief waited at his car for some time... because he thought I was going to scratch it. I was thinking... why did he do it if he is so scared? Didn't he waste more time that way?

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    lol, bring a tripod next time .........
    just joking, walk away is the best but there are alway those day where we would not want to walk away for any reason.

    i tend to walk away most of the time.
    But there was once i did not, i wanted to ....... but a friend pulled me away.
    i guess that was a badbad day .lol

    as i was saying, there are many kind of ppl out there, it does not mean we need to be that kind of ppl.

    just making some noise here, no offence to anyone what so ever.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by LENS View Post
    actually i mean TS =) .. judging little time beng and then take photo to protest seems like a rude act too. the little time beng may really not knowing someone is waiting for the seat =) even he saw TS standing. Just my opinion =)
    Its cool, sORe-EyEz. LENS probably meant that taking pic will escalate things, and it does!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nottipiglet View Post
    How about parking? Did anyone steal the parking lot you have been waiting for? It happened to me at the Waterloo St underground car park. After that, the beng carkpark lot thief waited at his car for some time... because he thought I was going to scratch it. I was thinking... why did he do it if he is so scared? Didn't he waste more time that way?
    Saw that happen to someone once. After stealing lot, still have to be afraid for own car
    Again another avoidable situation!

    GilbertGoh, its lucky nothing foul happened that day. There are times I get fired up too, then cannot think straight. I treat myself to a good dose of whisky everytime I walk away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mohgui View Post
    i've encountered singaporean ungraciousness too in Marche (Vivocity). i was sitting next to a table of a group of 10 twenty-somethings. from their look, i reckon they are u-graduates and some could be holding a top jobs (from the things they talk about).

    well, the story is, after they've eaten and their tables cleared of crockeries, they remained at the table talking-****, sing-song and play mahjong. all these while, not ordering anything to eat. this goes on for a good half-an hour or so.

    the duty manager have been seen asking them (a number of times) if they would still want to eat. if not, would prefer if they give up their table bcoz the restaurant is damn crowded and there's a long queue outside. however, this bunch of people are still at it without eating. they sat there for a little while more and then finally made their way out.

    i was thinking, these are the future of singapore and it's a shame that such a behaviour is still seen. the effort by the government to promote a more gracious society seems to be fruitless.
    I don't think there is anything seriously wrong with this. Go to any good medium--top end restaurant and there will be a queue of people outside. If i want to have a table at these places I have to reserve days in advance. And once i'm happily eating i'm by no means obliged to wolf down my food as fast as i can so more people can eat. Dining is not just about eating. Its about socialising too. Surely the not fantastic food quality of marche vivocity alone doesn't justify the high price; you're paying for the ambience too, the dining experience.

    A hawker centre/fast food place where I just want a quick bite; i'll definitely eat and clear out so other people can sit. But a restaurant thats not cheap and you're paying for the ambience? I'm paying the extra so that I can enjoy my annual gathering with friends or hot date in comfort, and I won't be rushed. Imagine if you're bringing your girlfriend/bf to equinox to celebrate your anniversary. But becos got long queue outside the waiter tries to rush you. i'd send in a complaint straightaway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dithiolium View Post
    Saw that happen to someone once. After stealing lot, still have to be afraid for own car
    Again another avoidable situation!

    GilbertGoh, its lucky nothing foul happened that day. There are times I get fired up too, then cannot think straight. I treat myself to a good dose of whisky everytime I walk away.
    Road rage cannot be explained... Sometimes I get so angry, which is not my normal temperament. I've seen that with my friends too. That is, they become completely different people behind the wheel.

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