D80 lens

[mocha801]

Jus bought D80 with kit today
am i suppose to get AF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G DX IF-ED ?
the shop guy told me they run out of AF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G DX IF-ED and give me 18-70mm instead. He also told me actually 18-70 is better quality len than 18-135, so is it true?
jus check price list from this forum and found out tat 18-135 cost much more than 18-70 (he told me these 2 lens same price)

[psychobiologist]

yes, d80 is kitted with the 18-135mm
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supposed to come in the same box.. the 18-70 is the d70 kit lense.

[mocha801]

Originally Posted by psychobiologist yes, d80 is kitted with the 18-135mm ' supposed to come in the same box.. the 18-70 is the d70 kit lense.

so which lens is better? am i cheated?

[psychobiologist]

Originally Posted by mocha801 so which lens is better? am i cheated?

the 18-135 sells for a bit more in the 2nd hand market, and costs more brandnew.

the 18-70 is slightly better than then 18-135 in terms of vignette, but sharpness wise, wide open the 18-135 is sharper by a bit, however higher in distortion as well.

[petetherock]

Maybe you should tell us how much you paid?
The 18-135mm kit set will cost close to 1.8k
If you are charged less, then there is no complaints, otherwise it is cheating.

[zaren]

Originally Posted by mocha801 Jus bought D80 with kit today am i suppose to get AF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G DX IF-ED ? the shop guy told me they run out of AF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G DX IF-ED and give me 18-70mm instead. He also told me actually 18-70 is better quality len than 18-135, so is it true? jus check price list from this forum and found out tat 18-135 cost much more than 18-70 (he told me these 2 lens same price)

IMHO, you were cheated. the two lenses are NOT the same price.

[Redsun]

maybe you can tell us which shop you bought from so we know they cheat

[kyo86sg]

Originally Posted by Redsun maybe you can tell us which shop you bought from so we know they cheat

lol, we maybe hearing names like Al*n Pho*o or Cat*ay Ph*to

[mocha801]

from orient. juz talk to them and they allow me to change

[Milestone]

IMHO the 18-135 is definitely better. If same price definitely cannot compare. If they offer you at a lower price and tell you the differences, you made the decision and there is nothing to say. However, if the same price for 18-135 and you get 18-70 that's not right.

[cjyong]

so is a grey?

[LeoDaddy]

from OP.. sure grey mah..

IMHO i think buying grey bodies should be avoided. Recently i notice 2 hot red pixel on my D80 while tanking night shots. Dun feel so good, but at least i can send back to NSC for service. Cannot imagine buying Grey.. dun think the shop will change the set just becoz of 2 hot pixels. Even if they 'service' it.. will sure take longer.

[spazzer]

Originally Posted by mocha801 from orient. juz talk to them and they allow me to change

at least they allowed u to change and so i think it is also a grey set onli have shop warranty rite?

[mocha801]

sorry im new here..wat do u mean by grey set?
and warrantly wise how to know whether is frm where?

[LeoDaddy]

Originally Posted by mocha801 sorry im new here..wat do u mean by grey set? and warrantly wise how to know whether is frm where?

Grey means those with "international warranty". Those warranty do not work in Singapore. Normally these sets come with "shop warranty" where the shop undertakes the responsibility for a year.

To know if your set is covered under local warranty, check if you have Nikon Singapore's Warranty card. However, buyng from OP, you can be pretty sure they are grey from China.

[westwest2]

Originally Posted by Milestone IMHO the 18-135 is definitely better. If same price definitely cannot compare. If they offer you at a lower price and tell you the differences, you made the decision and there is nothing to say. However, if the same price for 18-135 and you get 18-70 that's not right.

i feel the 18-70 is a better lens...the build is also better...

[mocha801]

Originally Posted by westwest2 i feel the 18-70 is a better lens...the build is also better...

hmm, but i heard more ppl said 135 better than 70. so listen to the senior bros here

[mocha801]

Originally Posted by LeoDaddy Grey means those with "international warranty". Those warranty do not work in Singapore. Normally these sets come with "shop warranty" where the shop undertakes the responsibility for a year. To know if your set is covered under local warranty, check if you have Nikon Singapore's Warranty card. However, buyng from OP, you can be pretty sure they are grey from China.

thanks for the info bro

[LeoDaddy]

Originally Posted by mocha801 hmm, but i heard more ppl said 135 better than 70. so listen to the senior bros here

Optical quality wise, i dun think there are any noticable difference (unless u take identical photos and TRY compare them side by side)... its not like u r comparing kit lens with Lica lens..

I've just seen some photos shot with 18~200VR from another thread.. seems to exhibit the exact same problems I have in my 18~135 kit lens.

But if you look at flexibility, 18~200VR surely superior to 18~135mm, and 18~135mm is better then 18~70mm.

My 0.2 cents worth..

[westwest2]

Originally Posted by mocha801 hmm, but i heard more ppl said 135 better than 70. so listen to the senior bros here

yes i know i kinda new to these stuff...i sold off my 18-200 in favour of 18-70 for my d70...its a better lens in term of build and optical quality...

I prefer a shorter zoom lens then a 11.1x zoom...