wah ! this thread is still going on ?
this is ridiculous. raising fares in anticipation of rising oil prices. what if the oil prices do not rise and fares have been raised? the commuters then are screwed. nobody will follow up with whether oil prices did eventually rise or not after the fare adjustments.During the last application, much of the same arguments of anticipated higher oil prices and operating costs were advanced; and despite these, the public transport companies turned in record profits.
Their projections and fears were, in the event, found to be widely off-target. On these precedent grounds alone, the Public Transport Council (PTC) should reject the present application for a fare increase.
i like this statement...Instead of approving another hike, the PTC should tell the public transport operators themselves to "go take a hike", in the greater interest of all commuters.
Last edited by goering; 6th August 2007 at 10:18 PM.
hehehe...you guys are all barking up the wrong tree
complain bitch whine all you want you're never going to get anywhere and look at you guys, all trying to prove a point and trump one another. you unhappy, vote new blood in, what more needs to be said. it's incredible how so many people will argue ridiculous points when all you have to do is vote people out if you are not happy. everyone so quick to find fault when the fault lies with you for putting people in power to represent you if they not doing what you want.
you can't protest (you can, but who gonna do it), almost all of you are afraid of crossing your government and it does not take a rocket scientist to know that it is so easy to stick it to people here because no one will do anything but whine like a baby.
this whole thread really shows how idiotic and self serving people can be. It seems most all of you are mad at higher fares but then you guys bicker about the cause of it haha...you will never get anywhere.
i think about 6 men in a canoe in the middle of the ocean that all decide to start paddling because they are in agreement to find land. yet each of these 6 men are paddling in different directions and different timing and are only actually fighting each other and getting nowhere when at the start they all had a comon thread...
this is how you all look and this is why you will never get anywhere with this issue...simply vote in new people to tell those in power that if they don't do the job, they're out!
my dad always told me it is better to have big balls than a big mouth so grab your pair and stand up for yourselves instead of being runover and fighting about the cause when the outcome is the same where you will have to pay anyway...have some balls and put new people in because the writing is on the wall and if you cannot see it with the madness of enblocs, real estate, cost of living, etc., etc,. you will soon be priced right of your own country.
in my view, what right do people that gave themself an insane raise have to stick it to any singaporean for more money be it gst or allowing higher transportation fares. i would see that as slap on the face but it seems people here don't mind, forget, or believe all the candy coated rhetoric that goes on here...grab your pair and say enough is enough, it frustrates me to see how no one will stand up but yet argue in the background like whining girls...sorry ladies. i mean camon people, point that canoe in the right direction, start paddling together in rhythem, and you will find what you are looking for.
best of luck, n really, who cares what the cause is...kiasu kiasu kiasu, throw that mindset away and work together
so w/ fare increase wad improvements will we c?
more leg space? higher bus frequency? high-def TV mobile w/ surround sound? shorter journey from point "A" to point "B"? more adverts tt obscure our view ourside till we cant c our destination? bus bunching in greater numbers?
so far airconed buses r d oni pluses ttz obvious to me.
can we vote d fat cats of PTC, ComfortD.. out if they not doing a satisfactory job?!
Last edited by sORe-EyEz; 6th August 2007 at 10:43 PM.
This thread is getting no where.........let's move on.
When a barrel of oil increases by 100% in terms of cost, it doesn’t mean the electricity cost has to increase by 100%. You get a lot of things out of a barrel of crude oil.
First grade petrol goes to the Aerospace.
Second grade petrol goes to the automotive.
Next we have industry solvents and diesel to generate electricity.
Followed by plastics and then tar for metal road.
Therefore, energy prices and electricity prices are related but not proportionately related.
Further more, we also use natural gas to generate electricity. Natural gas is so much cheaper than fossil oil.
I think to shut the gap, we need hard figures.
The average ridership is 1.3 million. A fare increase of 10 cents = $130,000
If 1 kw cost 8 cents, I can buy 1,625,000 kw a day.
From my previous calculation, electricity consumed per day is only 1,071,106 kw per day.
Does this figure tell a story?
Last edited by Silence Sky; 6th August 2007 at 10:57 PM.