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    pretty obvious, in my view.

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    well, i am not sure about this. but what i can be sure is that the st basket of stocks as i was working for a listed co and my co was in the basket of stocks selected for a period of one year. did not think that we were 'top peformers' then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeobt View Post
    bro, not true leh.
    singaporeans are good at complaining and we usually complained everything,
    but those that was planned to increase has increased w/o failed.
    so far, i've not seen any revert of plan due to people power in singapore.

    singaporeans have no power.
    The thing is, we didn't complain enough!

    If we all filled the government forums with complains about this price increase, and then jam their website like what we did for this thread, then we can see if they really listen! I don't think their website is better than CS and can take such traffic...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgo View Post
    The thing is, we didn't complain enough!

    If we all filled the government forums with complains about this price increase, and then jam their website like what we did for this thread, then we can see if they really listen! I don't think their website is better than CS and can take such traffic...
    Tot complain is the only thing we can reasonably do without getting ourselves into trouble. Got alternative meh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeobt View Post
    when is about this type of dirty affair, ppl remember the opposition.
    when is time to show our support for them, all the votes go to the govt.
    now, they are not in power, what do you expect them to say?


    I am not about to spark off a political debate here. This issues is not a dirty affair. Is an affair that concern Singaporean who are affected by the price increase.

    I do not think all votes goes to the government during the election?? The opposition got a fair share of the votes as well except they did not make it all the way. We have opposition as MP and NMP as well. So, they do not have responsibilities to speak out?

    Is there any logic that they are not the government and thus we do not expect them to voice out until the next election rally? If this is the case, my votes will goes to the government who support the increase in fare now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stor View Post
    I am not about to spark off a political debate here. This issues is not a dirty affair. Is an affair that concern Singaporean who are affected by the price increase.

    I do not think all votes goes to the government during the election?? The opposition got a fair share of the votes as well except they did not make it all the way. We have opposition as MP and NMP as well. So, they do not have responsibilities to speak out?

    Is there any logic that they are not the government and thus we do not expect them to voice out until the next election rally? If this is the case, my votes will goes to the government who support the increase in fare now.
    lol I am giving up oso.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stor View Post
    I am not about to spark off a political debate here. This issues is not a dirty affair. Is an affair that concern Singaporean who are affected by the price increase.

    I do not think all votes goes to the government during the election?? The opposition got a fair share of the votes as well except they did not make it all the way. We have opposition as MP and NMP as well. So, they do not have responsibilities to speak out?

    Is there any logic that they are not the government and thus we do not expect them to voice out until the next election rally? If this is the case, my votes will goes to the government who support the increase in fare now.
    Aparrently, this isn't a palimentary topic. So on a day-to-day event, would opposition MPs get exposures from media?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stor View Post
    I am not about to spark off a political debate here. This issues is not a dirty affair. Is an affair that concern Singaporean who are affected by the price increase.

    I do not think all votes goes to the government during the election?? The opposition got a fair share of the votes as well except they did not make it all the way. We have opposition as MP and NMP as well. So, they do not have responsibilities to speak out?

    Is there any logic that they are not the government and thus we do not expect them to voice out until the next election rally? If this is the case, my votes will goes to the government who support the increase in fare now.
    As I said already before.... if you are opposition member of parliament, you are a "trouble maker" if you question the government policies. By the way, I didnt coin that term, it was coined by a lady member of parliament from the team in white, last I heard an apology was even made by her. As for opposition members who are not in parliament, what someone said is correct... would they even make it to the news and where on earth are they going to speak when any public speaking is subjected to police approval.... which we all know is not going to be granted.

    And your logic is you support the present government just because they say that they support the increase?? I cannot understand your logic......
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYRN View Post


    ain't that the top performers of the respective sectors?
    nope.. just representation of the sector..
    but usu theese companies have much larger mkt cap..

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    so, they are not necessarily top performers.

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    nope.. just representation of the sector..
    but usu theese companies have much larger mkt cap..

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    Quote Originally Posted by centuryegg View Post
    As I said already before.... if you are opposition member of parliament, you are a "trouble maker" if you question the government policies. By the way, I didnt coin that term, it was coined by a lady member of parliament from the team in white, last I heard an apology was even made by her. As for opposition members who are not in parliament, what someone said is correct... would they even make it to the news and where on earth are they going to speak when any public speaking is subjected to police approval.... which we all know is not going to be granted.

    And your logic is you support the present government just because they say that they support the increase?? I cannot understand your logic......
    Well..we are not in the parliament and we do not know precisely how the opposition MP or NMP could speak out on such issues. Of course one of the avenues is that they could speak out in the next parliament sitting. It is only they who knows the best how they could voice out on such matters under their responsibilities given. They still need to speak out even though they were term as "Trouble Maker" right? How far can they be seen as trouble maker if the debate facts are in place and they can bring out the issues as a responsible opposition figure?

    I guess most of us just wanted to have a voice to speak out on such issues even though we know the price increase will still take place....for sure!

    BTW, I mentioned the votes for the government for the price increase........take it easy... I am just trying to pull off some jokes on the white and opposition here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will03 View Post
    nope.. just representation of the sector..
    but usu theese companies have much larger mkt cap..
    wooh.. expert speaks.

    I'd better keep quiet and listen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stor View Post
    I do not think all votes goes to the government during the election?? The opposition got a fair share of the votes as well except they did not make it all the way. We have opposition as MP and NMP as well. So, they do not have responsibilities to speak out?

    eh... you know the number of votes right..... although they have fair share of votes.... they still kena "objection overrule"

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    Quote Originally Posted by reachme2003 View Post
    generally, i concurred. however, officials of govt bodies tends to emphazie on the positives and obscure the negatives. like, in today's st, 'jobless rate at 6-yr low .... ' so, if one were to take a seven or ten years' horizon, where would current relative jobless rate stands?
    erh...... there are a lot of other industries are not doing well leh.... if you happen to be such industries... you will know..... so cannot listen to one side of the story... there are another side of the story to listen too.....

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    just curious... were there fare reductions during the bad times... when the economic growth is going south?

    what if there's an energy crisis (like another gulf war) and due to this, operating costs affect companies from all sectors. and due to high operating costs, companies tend to cut back on salary cost and jobless rate increases?

    can the transport providers still use the rising energy cost as a reason for fare increase? if they can, then it is not in-line with the economic growth right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohgui View Post
    just curious... were there fare reductions during the bad times... when the economic growth is going south?

    what if there's an energy crisis (like another gulf war) and due to this, operating costs affect companies from all sectors. and due to high operating costs, companies tend to cut back on salary cost and jobless rate increases?

    can the transport providers still use the rising energy cost as a reason for fare increase? if they can, then it is not in-line with the economic growth right?
    There were no price reduction.... but i think they got more customers cos a lot of people avoid taking taxi during that time.... don't think there is a price increase also.... cos they got more customers mah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reno View Post
    There were no price reduction.... but i think they got more customers cos a lot of people avoid taking taxi during that time.... don't think there is a price increase also.... cos they got more customers mah...
    so it's status quo when times are bad and profit increase when times are good. from the way i see it, consumers are screwed in all ways.

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    In theory, with the new fare calculation formula, they are supposed to reduce fares during economic crisis. Whether that will happen in the next crisis is anybody's guess.

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    so it's status quo when times are bad and profit increase when times are good. from the way i see it, consumers are screwed in all ways.

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    What is the point of arguing? We know we can't do anything; Just follow what's being handed down.

    That's how foreigners see Singaporeans, a group that just follow instructions! Couldn't think outside of the box, do things according to rules & regulations but will be fully confused if there is no rule to limit his creativity; can't make U-turn if there is no sign post!

    That is the environment we are brought up in; IN A BOX! It's different culture & mindset. It's uniquely Singapore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnlim View Post
    What is the point of arguing? We know we can't do anything; Just follow what's being handed down.

    That's how foreigners see Singaporeans, a group that just follow instructions! Couldn't think outside of the box, do things according to rules & regulations but will be fully confused if there is no rule to limit his creativity; can't make U-turn if there is no sign post!

    That is the environment we are brought up in; IN A BOX! It's different culture & mindset. It's uniquely Singapore.
    hahahaaa...... you make singaporean sounds like robots of singapore instead of citizens of singapore ...

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