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    Number of marriages, divorces increased in 2006:Statistics Dept
    By S Ramesh, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 24 July 2007 1856 hrs

    SINGAPORE: Marriages and divorces were both higher last year compared with 2005, said the Department of Statistics.

    23,706 marriages were registered last year against 22,992 in 2005 - showing a 3.1 per cent increase.
    Of these, 3,945 marriages were registered by the Registry of Muslim Marriages.

    However, the overall number of marriages is still lower than the annual average registered in the 1990s - which stood at 24,800.

    The Department said men in the 25 to 29 age group, and women aged 20 to 24 experienced the largest fall in marriage rates last year.

    And the delay in the timing of marriage occurred among grooms and brides of all educational groups.

    In 2006, those with primary or no education were the oldest to get married; and the median age at first marriage for this group was 40 years for non-Muslims and 33 years for Muslims.

    Meanwhile, re-marriage has become increasingly common, with 17 per cent of grooms and 15 per cent of brides remarrying last year.

    For Muslim grooms, the proportion remarrying rose from 19 per cent in 1996 to 26 per cent last year.

    As for the divorce rate, the Department noted that younger married persons aged 20 to 24 registered the highest rate last year.

    Their divorce rate also showed the largest increase over the past ten years.

    Among male divorcees last year, the largest number came from the 35 to 44 age group, while for the women it was the 25 to 34 age group.

    And Muslims who divorced have a shorter median duration of marriage as compared to non Muslims.

    Last year, it was 7.8 years for Muslims and 10 years for non-Muslims.

    84 per cent of non-Muslim divorced couples last year were predominantly Chinese, a figure which is on par with a decade ago. - CNA/yy
    Hmmm....seems like all these are so common nowadays that it become a norm......HAizzzz....... why no happy ending living together happily ever after??? is it hard to find or have nowadays..........

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    life is getting more complex nowaday and a lot more stress than old time

    Also, female are getting more independent, so they are more willing to divorce if they are not happy with the marriage compare to old time.
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    I wonder if people taking the marriage vows truly understand its meaning or not....

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    Marriage is and always has been an economic transaction first and foremost...

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    when at the era of arranged marriaged divorces rate are very low now we chose or find ourselves the rate is higher.

    Is it becos parents know their child best n find the right spouse for their child in an arranged marriage? thats why they last longer?

    Maybe should we go back to the time of arranged marriaged?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobbit6003 View Post
    I wonder if people taking the marriage vows truly understand its meaning or not....
    Last time, it is just the ring.

    Now it is the ring, condom and maybe the cheque.
    Last edited by raincool2005; 25th July 2007 at 03:15 PM.

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    Interesting article.

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    I predict more business for lawyers in the future!

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    Quote Originally Posted by leejay View Post
    Interesting article.
    leejay ... don't see the article as interesting at all. It really did not say much rather than reciting statistic. It did not even try to shed some light on why the divorce rate in rising.

    From my observation here there and everywhere, the moment woman acheive some degree of financial independence, divorce increased. Why? For many in the older generation, women did not have too many choices, but to stay in bad marriages, because the husband = ricebowl.

    Divorce is not a pretty thing, but making the couple stay together under a bad situation, like Singapore, is a bad thing.

    Once the divorce idea sets in, the marriage is not salvagable, definately in the long run. No amount of concelling will help. Some will stay in the marriage becasue of the children, because of family, church or society pressure, but it will be an unhappy arrangement regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garou12 View Post
    Marriage is and always has been an economic transaction first and foremost...
    speak for yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadpoet View Post
    leejay ... don't see the article as interesting at all. It really did not say much rather than reciting statistic. It did not even try to shed some light on why the divorce rate in rising.

    From my observation here there and everywhere, the moment woman acheive some degree of financial independence, divorce increased. Why? For many in the older generation, women did not have too many choices, but to stay in bad marriages, because the husband = ricebowl.

    Divorce is not a pretty thing, but making the couple stay together under a bad situation, like Singapore, is a bad thing.

    Once the divorce idea sets in, the marriage is not salvagable, definately in the long run. No amount of concelling will help. Some will stay in the marriage becasue of the children, because of family, church or society pressure, but it will be an unhappy arrangement regardless.
    some continue to be husband and wife on paper only, actually they had other partners outside liao.

    quite sad.. i thought rich country like Singapore will suppose to have the most lasting marriages in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadpoet View Post
    leejay ... don't see the article as interesting at all. It really did not say much rather than reciting statistic. It did not even try to shed some light on why the divorce rate in rising.

    From my observation here there and everywhere, the moment woman acheive some degree of financial independence, divorce increased. Why? For many in the older generation, women did not have too many choices, but to stay in bad marriages, because the husband = ricebowl.

    Divorce is not a pretty thing, but making the couple stay together under a bad situation, like Singapore, is a bad thing.
    you're saying that in Singapore, under a bad situation couples will have to stay together?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deadpoet View Post
    Once the divorce idea sets in, the marriage is not salvagable, definately in the long run. No amount of concelling will help. Some will stay in the marriage becasue of the children, because of family, church or society pressure, but it will be an unhappy arrangement regardless.
    actually that's a rather narrow view of counselling by social workers. not all broken marriages can be reconciled, but not all have to end broken.
    Last edited by eikin; 25th July 2007 at 03:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raincool2005 View Post
    some continue to be husband and wife on paper only, actually they had other partners outside liao.

    quite sad.. i thought rich country like Singapore will suppose to have the most lasting marriages in the world.
    err...are you a singaporean???you sentence makes me laugh and i almost fell off the chair...

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    Quote Originally Posted by glensky View Post
    speak for yourself
    i am speaking for myself. Someone obviously doesn't like what i have said. Too bad for you. Marriage has always been an economic transaction: look at history when kings married off their children for money or power or alliances with foreign powers. The arranged marriages of old with the dowry and how families had to pay for marrying their daughters off. Even modern marriages with the prenups or the fighting over assets upon dissolution. Heck even getting married these days have become a potlatch: The more money you have the bigger the wedding festivities to show off your wealth... Couples who married for love are pooling their economic resources together for mutual survival. You can disprove this if you disagree. you're more than welcome to try.

    I agree with what someone said earlier with women who are more financially independent who don't have to put up with a crappy situation if their marriage turns out to be a sham. More power to them. the only unfortunate thing is that with divorce so easy now, it may give more couples an excuse to end the marriage without trying expanding any effort towards trying to work things out. But i think its better now for women cause they don't have to put up with an unhappy marriage because the husband is the sole breadwinner.
    Last edited by garou12; 25th July 2007 at 03:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garou12 View Post
    i am speaking for myself. Someone obviously doesn't like what i have said. Too bad for you. Marriage has always been an economic transaction: look at history when kings married off their children for money or power or alliances with foreign powers. The arranged marriages of old with the dowry and how families had to pay for marrying their daughters off. Even modern marriages with the prenups or the fighting over assets upon dissolution. Heck even getting married these days have become a potlatch: The more money you have the bigger the wedding festivities to show off your wealth... Couples who married for love are pooling their economic resources together for mutual survival. You can disprove this if you disagree. you're more than welcome to try.

    I agree with what someone said earlier with women who are more financially independent who don't have to put up with a crappy situation if their marriage turns out to be a sham. More power to them. the only unfortunate thing is that with divorce so easy now, it may give more couples an excuse to end the marriage without trying expanding any effort towards trying to work things out. But i think its better now for women cause they don't have to put up with an unhappy marriage because the husband is the sole breadwinner.
    if you reduce the workings of modern world down to the tangibles only, everything can be transacted for money. but life's much more than that isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eikin View Post
    you're saying that in Singapore, under a bad situation couples will have to stay together?

    actually that's a rather narrow view of counselling by social workers. not all broken marriages can be reconciled, but not all have to end broken.
    The long seperation required for a divorce is a failed attempt to discourage divorce. However, if 2 people decide to seperate, why does the government gets involved?

    Lots of couple stay together becuase of financial constraints. Sad, but true. In the old days, the woman had no realistic economic alternatives but stay in a bad marriage. Nowadays, maybe too much debt, too highly leveraged?

    On your second point, not all broken marriages end up in divorce, but are they truly reconciled?

    Never seen a marriage that had fallen apart truly fixed. The scar is usually deep, otherwise the marriage would not have fallen apart in the first place.

    What we need is an overhaul of society draconian way of thinking, and provide a good support network for parents, single or otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eikin View Post
    if you reduce the workings of modern world down to the tangibles only, everything can be transacted for money. but life's much more than that isn't it?
    life is but unfortunately the saying that money makes the world go round is far from a lie isn't it? Besides Economic means more than just money: It means resources, which is what money is a part of. If people can really stay together for love more power to them. They are an example that the world really needs right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadpoet View Post
    The long seperation required for a divorce is a failed attempt to discourage divorce. However, if 2 people decide to seperate, why does the government gets involved?

    Lots of couple stay together becuase of financial constraints. Sad, but true. In the old days, the woman had no realistic economic alternatives but stay in a bad marriage. Nowadays, maybe too much debt, too highly leveraged?

    On your second point, not all broken marriages end up in divorce, but are they truly reconciled?

    Never seen a marriage that had fallen apart truly fixed. The scar is usually deep, otherwise the marriage would not have fallen apart in the first place.

    What we need is an overhaul of society draconian way of thinking, and provide a good support network for parents, single or otherwise.
    maybe you want to be specific about what is draconian about society's thinking here? not everything that ''works'' in the US context is applicable to other places.

    never seen a broken marriage fixed doesn't mean they don't exist. i can tell you they do happen.
    Last edited by eikin; 25th July 2007 at 04:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadpoet View Post
    leejay ... don't see the article as interesting at all. It really did not say much rather than reciting statistic. It did not even try to shed some light on why the divorce rate in rising.

    From my observation here there and everywhere, the moment woman acheive some degree of financial independence, divorce increased. Why? For many in the older generation, women did not have too many choices, but to stay in bad marriages, because the husband = ricebowl.

    Divorce is not a pretty thing, but making the couple stay together under a bad situation, like Singapore, is a bad thing.

    Once the divorce idea sets in, the marriage is not salvagable, definately in the long run. No amount of concelling will help. Some will stay in the marriage becasue of the children, because of family, church or society pressure, but it will be an unhappy arrangement regardless.
    I merely said it is an interesting article. I never said anything about divorce. BTW, why the sudden release of your portfolio?

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    Quote Originally Posted by garou12 View Post
    life is but unfortunately the saying that money makes the world go round is far from a lie isn't it? Besides Economic means more than just money: It means resources, which is what money is a part of. If people can really stay together for love more power to them. They are an example that the world really needs right now.
    well there are realities to deal with, but beyond that there are many other things. end of the day everyone needs to stay alive, need to eat, sleep, excrete, earn a living, but life isn't just that if not we'll all be robots. no need to be so pessimistic

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