Why do people argue about camera brands?

sloth · 24th July 2007

Never quite understood why people have to get so defensive about their choice of camera. I read so much about people saying "my brand is better, just because I choose to use a niche brand instead of one from the big 2" or "their fans from brand x talk so much but their hardware isn't really superior" or "lots of pros use brand y even though brand x markets so much". Why can't we all get along?

it would be nice to see people keep open minds

you've made your choice, accept it for what it is, you can arrange to get 'divorced' but it is just expensive (sell all the gear)

One of the things I like about CS is that it is really about the photography and less about the gear - now if only the "why brand x is better than y" threads were a bit easier to avoid.

Myself I shoot a spectrum of hardware ranging from DSLR to MF to 35mm film and own a few bits and pieces of each. But it never really was about the hardware in the first place.. it's about the image, whether I land that image on film or digital doesn't even matter

ortega · 24th July 2007

Originally Posted by sloth

One of the things I like about CS is that it is really about the photography and less about the gear - now if only the "why brand x is better than y" threads were a bit easier to avoid.

are you sure about that? you need to surf more

hazmee · 24th July 2007

They are either feeling insecure or jealous. Obviously they are not photographers. Sometimes its due to lack of knowledge such thread emerges every now and then.

psychobiologist · 24th July 2007

Originally Posted by ortega

are you sure about that? you need to surf more

a very large portion of CS is about equipment :P

waileong · 24th July 2007

Why? Simple answer-- human nature. It's the cause of conflicts ranging from Nikon vs Canon to film vs digital to politics to religion to philosophy.

If you could solve that, you'd save the world.

scenar · 24th July 2007

actually, what's wrong with being a gear head? hahahaha...i know some folks who buy a 85f1.2 just for the "WAAAAAAAH, look at that HUGE FRONT ELEMENT!!!" kinda feeling
nothing wrong mah....

If staring at the 3k hunk of glass makes him/her happy, then it has served its purpose!

edit:

Like ppl who buy a ferrari to drive in spore...really "no pt" from a practical perspective, but for the "WOW" factor, it sure works!

raymanfu · 24th July 2007

Originally Posted by sloth

But it never really was about the hardware in the first place.. it's about the image, whether I land that image on film or digital doesn't even matter

I totally agree this statement. The most important is the man/woman behind the equipment.

Dream Merchant · 24th July 2007

Emotional investment and indoctrination.

Person buys X gear after believing that it performs best, cannot admit that nothing in life is perfect and turn blind eye to X brand's shortcomings. Will then defend X brand at all costs. Cannot loose face mah.

Herd mentality also has a part to play in the equation.

I still like *Yoshihisa Maitani idea of a perfect camera - no camera.

* Chief designer of the OM system.

AJ23 · 24th July 2007

Who dares to admit that, he/she bought something that is.......less stellar.

eurekas · 24th July 2007

Originally Posted by sloth

One of the things I like about CS is that it is really about the photography and less about the gear - now if only the "why brand x is better than y" threads were a bit easier to avoid.

You sure or not ?
I thought CS talk alot of equipment.

skopio · 24th July 2007

people want to know that their purchase is justified and have not been cheated. that's it.
a bit like how aunties rave on their shoes purchases, "wow, so pretty, and so cheap!"

ahbeng · 24th July 2007

people who usually do this takes poor photos. like what you mention, they are only good in comparing brands.

simpson · 24th July 2007

Originally Posted by raymanfu

I totally agree this statement. The most important is the man/woman behind the equipment.

I fully agreed with raymanfu. End of the day, it is the person using the equipment, the expertise and know how, how well he/she understand the equipment, functionality and make full use of the equipment potential. Sometime we have to depend on luck too, be at the right place at the right time and take the shot that tell the whole story. Just my thought.

nordleadx · 24th July 2007

hmm.......than why are u here??? and wasted all this time typing ??? u should be out shooting rather than be borthered about all this...

eikin · 24th July 2007

i think we should just do away with all the brand classification in CS

2Focus · 24th July 2007

Everyone is proud of what they own. But I don't see the need to argue about which camera is good v.v, just a waste of time. Some like a particular brands bcoz of the accessories that comes with it, some becoz majority using it but some bcoz they prefer to be isolated from the big players and I'm one of them. At times almost wanted to change but something tells me that I should stick to what I have. I my love for my camera rekindles....

Big Kahuna · 24th July 2007

I think competition is good thing from consumer point of view, but i am also wondering even if we can get peace with the Canon vs Nikon thingy, there will still be argument in other subject like Mac vs Windows, Liverpoool vs MU, McClaren vs Ferrari, Maxonline vs ADSL etc....all these are making CS more diversify and interesting don't you agree?

eikin · 24th July 2007

Originally Posted by Big Kahuna

I think competition is good thing from consumer point of view, but i am also wondering even if we can get peace with the Canon vs Nikon thingy, there will still be argument in other subject like Mac vs Windows, Liverpoool vs MU, McClaren vs Ferrari, Maxonline vs ADSL etc....all these are making CS more diversify and interesting don't you agree?

well, depends on whether most people want a CS that focus on the quality of photography or a CS that focus on equipment bitching

psychobiologist · 24th July 2007

Originally Posted by skopio

people want to know that their purchase is justified and have not been cheated. that's it.
a bit like how aunties rave on their shoes purchases, "wow, so pretty, and so cheap!"

consumer postpurchase dissonance

Dream Merchant · 24th July 2007

I remember nong nong ago, when I first got my Panasonic Lumix FZ-10 (black of course!), I had a LARRGE blaaack rubber hood attached to it. The hood had a red red ring in front. At Chinatown I take photo, a group of youngish photogs all carry fierce fierce DSLR peek peek to see my cam. After awhile, heard one comment to the others "Chey! Lumix only lah!" and they walk away. I just smile and continue to shoot.

Also, remember the posting of one CSer oso nong nong ago after take photo went Newton Hawker Center to makan? One ah pek hawker serving the guy food saw his DSLR and said something like "Wah! U got deegital ah? I also got! My one 1Ds har!" LOL!

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sloth Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 619	Why do people argue about camera brands? Never quite understood why people have to get so defensive about their choice of camera. I read so much about people saying "my brand is better, just because I choose to use a niche brand instead of one from the big 2" or "their fans from brand x talk so much but their hardware isn't really superior" or "lots of pros use brand y even though brand x markets so much". Why can't we all get along? it would be nice to see people keep open minds you've made your choice, accept it for what it is, you can arrange to get 'divorced' but it is just expensive (sell all the gear) One of the things I like about CS is that it is really about the photography and less about the gear - now if only the "why brand x is better than y" threads were a bit easier to avoid. Myself I shoot a spectrum of hardware ranging from DSLR to MF to 35mm film and own a few bits and pieces of each. But it never really was about the hardware in the first place.. it's about the image, whether I land that image on film or digital doesn't even matter Last edited by sloth; 24th July 2007 at 02:15 PM.

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hazmee Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Teban Gardens Posts: 2,610	Re: Why do people argue about camera brands? They are either feeling insecure or jealous. Obviously they are not photographers. Sometimes its due to lack of knowledge such thread emerges every now and then. __________________ The hideout // My flickr page

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waileong Deregistered Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,597	Re: Why do people argue about camera brands? Why? Simple answer-- human nature. It's the cause of conflicts ranging from Nikon vs Canon to film vs digital to politics to religion to philosophy. If you could solve that, you'd save the world.

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scenar Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,167	Re: Why do people argue about camera brands? actually, what's wrong with being a gear head? hahahaha...i know some folks who buy a 85f1.2 just for the "WAAAAAAAH, look at that HUGE FRONT ELEMENT!!!" kinda feeling nothing wrong mah.... If staring at the 3k hunk of glass makes him/her happy, then it has served its purpose! edit: Like ppl who buy a ferrari to drive in spore...really "no pt" from a practical perspective, but for the "WOW" factor, it sure works!

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Dream Merchant Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,150	Re: Why do people argue about camera brands? Emotional investment and indoctrination. Person buys X gear after believing that it performs best, cannot admit that nothing in life is perfect and turn blind eye to X brand's shortcomings. Will then defend X brand at all costs. Cannot loose face mah. Herd mentality also has a part to play in the equation. I still like Yoshihisa Maitani idea of a perfect camera - no camera. Chief designer of the OM system. Last edited by Dream Merchant; 24th July 2007 at 02:59 PM.

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AJ23 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Town of Queens doing PORT-9YOU Posts: 6,711	Re: Why do people argue about camera brands? Who dares to admit that, he/she bought something that is.......less stellar. __________________ >> Some Little Gallery <<

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skopio Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 745	Re: Why do people argue about camera brands? people want to know that their purchase is justified and have not been cheated. that's it. a bit like how aunties rave on their shoes purchases, "wow, so pretty, and so cheap!"

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ahbeng Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 426	Re: Why do people argue about camera brands? people who usually do this takes poor photos. like what you mention, they are only good in comparing brands.

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nordleadx Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Posts: 786	Re: Why do people argue about camera brands? hmm.......than why are u here??? and wasted all this time typing ??? u should be out shooting rather than be borthered about all this...

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eikin Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 東京 Tokyo Posts: 10,920	Re: Why do people argue about camera brands? i think we should just do away with all the brand classification in CS __________________ APAD

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2Focus New Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Next to my neighbour Posts: 35	Re: Why do people argue about camera brands? Everyone is proud of what they own. But I don't see the need to argue about which camera is good v.v, just a waste of time. Some like a particular brands bcoz of the accessories that comes with it, some becoz majority using it but some bcoz they prefer to be isolated from the big players and I'm one of them. At times almost wanted to change but something tells me that I should stick to what I have. I my love for my camera rekindles....

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Big Kahuna Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,678	Re: Why do people argue about camera brands? I think competition is good thing from consumer point of view, but i am also wondering even if we can get peace with the Canon vs Nikon thingy, there will still be argument in other subject like Mac vs Windows, Liverpoool vs MU, McClaren vs Ferrari, Maxonline vs ADSL etc....all these are making CS more diversify and interesting don't you agree?

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Dream Merchant Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,150	My Waaan Beeger Than Yaaaw Wan!!! I remember nong nong ago, when I first got my Panasonic Lumix FZ-10 (black of course!), I had a LARRGE blaaack rubber hood attached to it. The hood had a red red ring in front. At Chinatown I take photo, a group of youngish photogs all carry fierce fierce DSLR peek peek to see my cam. After awhile, heard one comment to the others "Chey! Lumix only lah!" and they walk away. I just smile and continue to shoot. Also, remember the posting of one CSer oso nong nong ago after take photo went Newton Hawker Center to makan? One ah pek hawker serving the guy food saw his DSLR and said something like "Wah! U got deegital ah? I also got! My one 1Ds har!" LOL!