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    That your camera body fails you during a shoot?

    I was asked to cover some events and weddings for friends and I keep having this paranoid of my camera breakdown in the middle of a shoot.

    Do you guys carry an extra body? or trust your camera?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovells19 View Post
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    Do you guys carry an extra body? or trust your camera?
    yes, everything have extra,
    and yes, if you don't, what else can you use??
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovells19 View Post
    That your camera body fails you during a shoot?

    I was asked to cover some events and weddings for friends and I keep having this paranoid of my camera breakdown in the middle of a shoot.

    Do you guys carry an extra body? or trust your camera?
    Chances are, they will fail and that is guaranteed 100%. The variable is if they will fail during an important shoot?

    It's all in your appetite for risk and your tolerance for risk. If either are low, well, the only alternative is to bring a second or third body.

    Long time ago, when I was shooting film with manual cameras, once, 5 out of 6 camera jammed. Talk about stressed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadpoet View Post
    Chances are, they will fail and that is guaranteed 100%. The variable is if they will fail during an important shoot?

    It's all in your appetite for risk and your tolerance for risk. If either are low, well, the only alternative is to bring a second or third body.

    Long time ago, when I was shooting film with manual cameras, once, 5 out of 6 camera jammed. Talk about stressed!
    OUCH

    must be super stressed out then..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadpoet View Post
    Chances are, they will fail and that is guaranteed 100%. The variable is if they will fail during an important shoot?

    It's all in your appetite for risk and your tolerance for risk. If either are low, well, the only alternative is to bring a second or third body.

    Long time ago, when I was shooting film with manual cameras, once, 5 out of 6 camera jammed. Talk about stressed!
    haha... so got another assistant to load film for u la ?

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    Rule #1 : if you want to keep your friends, NEVER accept to cover their mariage or any important event for them.
    Rule #2 : if something can fail, then it will fail.
    Rule #3 : if several things can fail, the worse one will happen.
    Rule #4 : if you have prevented every cases and it can not fail, it'll still fail.
    Rule #5 : never trust your camera, even if it's expensive pro one. I owned more than 30 camera in my life, the only 2 who failled during important shots were the most pro ones.

    My advise : go to a professionnal photographer and pay him the right price and offer this to your friend. This way you are sure that :

    - if it fails, it's not your fault
    - you'll keep your friends
    - you'll keep your camera in good working condition.

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    I see, so don't trust your cameras,

    than you use a main camera...

    and bring a backup camera for backup the main camera if it failed.

    you also need to bring another backup camera for the main camera and the backup camera if both fail at the same time.

    just in case all 3 cameras failed at the same time, so you need to bring a forth camera for backup.

    than you want to have more insurance about the cameras, put another camera in your bag....

    Oh, yes, we have not talk about lenses, flashes, camera batteries, batteries pack, cables , CF cards, storage devices, filters, camera bags, and also back up photographer yet..
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennyong View Post
    haha... so got another assistant to load film for u la ?

    back then, can load film real fast ... and when I shoot with the 6 cameras, all Canon AE-1s, I usually load the camera with 3 type of films, 2 color and 1 black and white. back then again, zoom sucks. So I generally shoot with 2 to 3 cameras at a time, depending on what focal length I need. Most of the time, I will have a 28 or 35 on 1 body, a 50 and a 135 on the 2nd and 3rd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovells19 View Post
    OUCH

    must be super stressed out then..
    super stressed? might as well jump over the bridge and get it done with. luckily, I actually did loose only a few images. Managed to get the film out safely in the dark room.

    btw, back them, cameras are compact, and the 6 AE-1 I had, with those tiny FD lenses, the bad is lighter than what I have today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovells19 View Post
    That your camera body fails you during a shoot?
    IF one asks such a question .... she must have never heard of "The Murphy's Law"

    Murphy's Law was named after Captain Edward A. Murphy and is formed by eight laws.
    • If anything can go wrong, it will.
    • If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the one that will cause the most damage will be the one to go wrong.
    • If anything just cannot go wrong, it will anyway.
    • If you perceive that there are four possible ways in which something can go wrong, and circumvent these, then a fifth way, unprepared for, will promptly develop.
    • Left to themselves, things tend to go from bad to worse.
    • If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something.
    • Nature always sides with the hidden flaw
    • Whatever has happened wrong, is bound to happen again .... maybe even worse.
    always the Light, .... always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovells19 View Post
    That your camera body fails you during a shoot?

    I was asked to cover some events and weddings for friends and I keep having this paranoid of my camera breakdown in the middle of a shoot.

    Do you guys carry an extra body? or trust your camera?
    All events planning will surely have some kinds of backup.

    As for you, your single point of failure is your camera if it fails then all your preparation for that very day goes down the drain... you don't want that to happen right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovells19 View Post
    That your camera body fails you during a shoot?

    I was asked to cover some events and weddings for friends and I keep having this paranoid of my camera breakdown in the middle of a shoot.

    Do you guys carry an extra body? or trust your camera?
    You gotta have backup in all your equipment man. Not just cam, but also flash, batts and CF cards. Anything can go wrong during impt shooting moments.

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    Always have a clause in your contract that covers you in the event of equipment failure, especially if you're shooting events or weddings. Of course, offer enough assurance that 'all measures' have been taken to minimise the occurance of such, and make sure that you follow up on said measures. Afterall, even if you don't get sued for breech of contract in the event of non, or non-satisfactory delivery, you would have made a very unhappy customer who will surely spread the word.

    Having said that, always bring along at least one back-up body that you know is reliable, not some cast-off, flash, batts and cords, even if you're using wireless. If you look at many pro's equipment bag, their camera gear despite having several bodies, flash and lenses, usually contain much more misc stuff that can get them out of a jam. Nowadays, very likely two bags - one for camera and gear, and one for general life-saving barang barang inc lappy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    I see, so don't trust your cameras,

    than you use a main camera...

    and bring a backup camera for backup the main camera if it failed.

    you also need to bring another backup camera for the main camera and the backup camera if both fail at the same time.

    just in case all 3 cameras failed at the same time, so you need to bring a forth camera for backup.

    than you want to have more insurance about the cameras, put another camera in your bag....

    Oh, yes, we have not talk about lenses, flashes, camera batteries, batteries pack, cables , CF cards, storage devices, filters, camera bags, and also back up photographer yet..



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    If you don't have at least 1 set of spare gear, go rent one.

    You are putting someone else's happy occassion on the line here. Not something to play with, especially if it is a paid shoot.

    And yes... Heh. Try to avoid doing for friends.

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    even if the friend is paying?
    but if im getting married i won't ask my friend, like you all said i'd like to keep a friend

    thanks for all the replies!

    I always rent one set just in case, lol
    just want to make sure,

    5 bodies.. dunno how am i gonna afford that man hahaha

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    The only thing that dun fail is the rising and setting of the sun

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    bring backup...or else dun shoot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Potter View Post
    The only thing that dun fail is the rising and setting of the sun
    Not true bro, wait till the haze season comes.

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    Is always good to have an spare. Human will fall sick too... I had an experience of suffering of food posioning but had to continue shooting for an wedding... The number of time I had to rush to gents was countless.... At that time I dont have associates to cover my ass... So better to be prepare than sorry lol....

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