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    Default Nikon D40 has veiled pictures

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    Desperately need help as I am am really frustrated.

    Every shot I take with the D40 camera with the bundled 18-55 f3.5-5.5 6G lens gives pictures which look like there is a grey semi-transparent plastic sheet over it.
    I have to use the D-Lighting feature in the Nikon Capture NX software and the grey veil is lifted and voila, nice picture.

    I am a newbie, and simple things like this boggle me.

    Please advise

    I am not using any filter yet. i will get a UV & polarising filter
    I have a SB600 which I usually use with the camera .. with a diffusor

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    Default Re: Nikon D40 has veiled pictures

    NPNT. Show us some pictures first.
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    have you checked if your exposure is at 0 ??
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    Default Re: Nikon D40 has veiled pictures

    I think you may want to try play around with the in-camera contrast or colour space if you're bothered by it.

    What you're seeing is probably a lack of midtone contrast. Most dslrs will opt not to have too high midtone contrasts to retain the tonality, this gives you the option to tweak it in post-processing later on.

    If i'm not wrong, what the d-lighting feature in Nikon Capture does is to automatically adjust the midtones as well as highlights and shadows.

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    Default Re: Nikon D40 has veiled pictures

    check your shooting mode, and your exposure compensation level
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    Can you see the "veil" from the screen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdeep View Post
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    Desperately need help as I am am really frustrated.

    Every shot I take with the D40 camera with the bundled 18-55 f3.5-5.5 6G lens gives pictures which look like there is a grey semi-transparent plastic sheet over it.
    I have to use the D-Lighting feature in the Nikon Capture NX software and the grey veil is lifted and voila, nice picture.

    I am a newbie, and simple things like this boggle me.

    Please advise

    I am not using any filter yet. i will get a UV & polarising filter
    I have a SB600 which I usually use with the camera .. with a diffusor
    Is your computer display properly calibrated?

    From http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond40x/
    Dpreview use calibrated monitors at the PC normal gamma 2.2, this means that on our monitors we can make out the difference between all of the grayscale blocks below. We recommend to make the most of this review you should be able to see the difference (at least) between X,Y and Z and ideally also A, B and C.
    Last edited by lsisaxon; 9th July 2007 at 12:43 AM.

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    IsiSaxon,Six Ghz,
    The monitor is calibrated and I can see the diff gray sacles at the extremes. I do se the greyness on the camera's little LCD though.

    Gahhh!. Need to read up on posting pics ... you're right, NPNT Galdor
    Phantasia..thats getting a bit advance for me, I'll check the manual out ... anything specific I can twiddle?

    Mmm, I be checking xposure when I get back from work.

    Looks like I might solve this. Yesss!

    Pictures coming up
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    Last edited by Jagdeep; 9th July 2007 at 07:30 AM.

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    Default Re: Nikon D40 has veiled pictures

    the pic



    top has been adjusted with Nikon D-lighting,
    Bottom is original

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    Default Re: Nikon D40 has veiled pictures

    looks like underexposed to me..
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    The next time you think there's a veil over your shots, try increasing the EV by 0.7 or 1.0 stops to see if this phenomenon disappears.

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    looks like compression to me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdeep View Post
    the pic



    top has been adjusted with Nikon D-lighting,
    Bottom is original
    Top has a higher contrast. If that's your preference, you might want to increase the contrast a little by using the customising the Optimize Image settings Pg 68-69 of manual.

    Which mode did you shoot at? P, A, S, M or the 'green' fully auto mode or some digital vari program mode, eg portrait, landscape, child, sports, etc? Some of these modes, eg portrait may optimize for a lower contrast to prevent the skin tones of Caucasians from being blown out. Experiment with the tone settings and if you still cannot find one which suits you, you can try downloading a custom curve. sRealav2 works well for my D70s and I believe it should work well for D40 also.

    http://www.digitalkb.com/nikon/d70/t...a/version_two/

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    Default Re: Nikon D40 has veiled pictures

    Hello Guru's

    Today, I tried the various optmisation modes and the veil still exists.
    I will try the EV stop and see what happens and feedback
    Today i shot all in S modeat 1/500 s

    Jag
    Last edited by Jagdeep; 15th July 2007 at 09:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdeep View Post
    Hello Guru's

    Today, I tried the various optmisation modes and the veil still exists.
    I will try the EV stop and see what happens and feedback
    Today i shot all in S modeat 1/500 s

    Jag
    I still have a feeling it's your monitor calibration. What did you use to calibrate?

    Otherwise, try to load in the custom sRealav2 curve.
    Last edited by lsisaxon; 16th July 2007 at 02:16 PM.

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    Try adjusting your exposure a bit.
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    I have not calibrated my monitor but i could see all the grey scale posted in this thread.

    I tried with EV0.3, 0.7 and 1
    and the EV1 setting looked the closest to real

    This is strange, because in this case, anyone who uses the green point and shoot function is going to get veiled picture.

    I will load the curve (into monitor or camera... I am a newbie... ) and try

    CHeers
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    Try using the NORMAL mode in the optimize settings and see how. Grey veil... er... check your lens back and front, shine a torchlight in also to see if there's anything in there.

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    Cool Monitor Calibration

    Hmmm
    good idea, never thought of checking the lens itself .. what a dummy.

    by the way.... how do I calibrate the monitor.
    I Use an Samsung 740N LCD monitor

    I see a bit about the Spider calibration device but I also saw that it is for CRT monitors.
    Any recommendations?
    Jag

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    Quote Originally Posted by chanjyj View Post
    Try using the NORMAL mode in the optimize settings and see how. Grey veil... er... check your lens back and front, shine a torchlight in also to see if there's anything in there.
    That's a good idea.. Didn't think of that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jagdeep View Post
    Hmmm
    good idea, never thought of checking the lens itself .. what a dummy.

    by the way.... how do I calibrate the monitor.
    I Use an Samsung 740N LCD monitor

    I see a bit about the Spider calibration device but I also saw that it is for CRT monitors.
    Any recommendations?
    Jag
    Yes, you should use a screen calibrator like Spyder or Gretag-Macbeth/X-Rite. An economical entry-level one would be the OEM version of Gretag Macbeth/Pantone 'huey'. This was available from EastGear for under $100. So maybe you can call them up to check.

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