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    http://www.straitstimes.com/Life%252...ry_134822.html


    Photographer Tay Kay Chin, 41, who selected the pieces to be shown in the exhibition despite being aware of the hoax, said: 'It is a quiet mourning for someone, done tastefully. It was well put together and thought out.'
    I spoke to Adeline a total of no less than one hour and many things were said. Let me put in context what I had said before the quote above. Paraphrasing myself:


    when I first saw it, I was very very affected. but upon subsequent viewings, I had my suspicions. But it doesn't matter to me whether Xiaokang is a real person or not because I believe a schizo patient is capable of doing something like this. As an art work, I do think it is quite chilling. Before the petition and all the recent events, the Wu Xiaokang presentation was very quietly sitting in cyberspace, waiting to be discovered; 'It is a quiet mourning for someone, done tastefully. It was well put together and thought out.' People who stumble upon them by accident have a chance to experience it for themselves and decide if it was real, false, etc. I know there are people who liked it and was moved by it even though they knew it was not true. With the petition, they have gone from passive to active lying and I am totally against stunts like these to promote themselves.


    And again, no, I don't see myself as so powerful as to be able to dictate what the media write. Adeline did not misquote me. When you give an interview, the risk is always there. But thanks to the Net, I get a small chance to tell my side.

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    what infuriates me was they actually said.. 'fooling the organiser was necessary' http://www.straitstimes.com/Life%252...ry_135089.html

    and if they are allowed to continue with the exhibition, wat message are we driving across ?

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    It's a little like... "I know it's wrong. But I am still going to do it nonetheless so I can get my works exhibited".

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    This is like "Blair Witch Project".

    If you know its a lie, you won't enjoy the movie as much.

    Although lying is not good, its neccessary in this case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eikin View Post
    the words in the newspapers might then be rather misleading



    it suggests that you have recommended the works to be shown although you knew the story was a hoax. the director said she was kept in the dark, it's not difficult to make an assumption that the truth was deliberately kept in the dark since the director is supposed to be in control of the entire show. you might want to get the newspaper to clarify the part about you making the selection despite being aware of the hoax.

    btw the link isn't working.
    Somebody else may want to alert ST but I don't see why I should do it. I do believe truth will prevail eventually and those who are interested to know the truth will get it eventually. It is not difficult to make an assumption, but now that I have said my side of the story in this forum, I don't think it is too much to expect the right action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaychin View Post
    Somebody else may want to alert ST but I don't see why I should do it. I do believe truth will prevail eventually and those who are interested to know the truth will get it eventually. It is not difficult to make an assumption, but now that I have said my side of the story in this forum, I don't think it is too much to expect the right action.
    well i assume eikin raised it up so that you might want to rectify any misconceptions on what you have said. if you don't think it's necessary, even tho it does seem that eikin has analysed the situation correctly, then no action needs to be taken i suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max 2.8 View Post
    This is like "Blair Witch Project".
    haha..i did think of that.

    i'll probably get flamed for this but what the heck. personally i don't find this a big deal. so what if they pulled a stunt like this...yeah some ppl's egos got bruised..is that why so many are so upset? if you look beyond the prank, there is still a message in there. they are not the first to try to fool the internet audience, and they most certainly won't be the last. maybe they are getting it bad cos they are singaporean?

    anyway in the link someone (was it eikin?) posted a few pages back, some ntu ppl more or less deduced that this was a hoax with all the doctored pics. i don't consider this anything worse than april fool's prank played by the newspapers in different countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madmacs View Post
    haha..i did think of that.

    i'll probably get flamed for this but what the heck. personally i don't find this a big deal. so what if they pulled a stunt like this...yeah some ppl's egos got bruised..is that why so many are so upset? if you look beyond the prank, there is still a message in there. they are not the first to try to fool the internet audience, and they most certainly won't be the last. maybe they are getting it bad cos they are singaporean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max 2.8 View Post
    This is like "Blair Witch Project".

    If you know its a lie, you won't enjoy the movie as much.

    Although lying is not good, its neccessary in this case.
    the lie is necessary for us to "enjoy" this tale of a poor guy who jumped to his death?????

    pls correct me if i've misunderstood u....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jOhO View Post
    the lie is necessary for us to "enjoy" this tale of a poor guy who jumped to his death?????

    pls correct me if i've misunderstood u....
    hmm...no one actually died leh. not that i know of anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmacs View Post
    haha..i did think of that.

    i'll probably get flamed for this but what the heck. personally i don't find this a big deal. so what if they pulled a stunt like this...yeah some ppl's egos got bruised..is that why so many are so upset? if you look beyond the prank, there is still a message in there. they are not the first to try to fool the internet audience, and they most certainly won't be the last. maybe they are getting it bad cos they are singaporean?

    anyway in the link someone (was it eikin?) posted a few pages back, some ntu ppl more or less deduced that this was a hoax with all the doctored pics. i don't consider this anything worse than april fool's prank played by the newspapers in different countries.
    some pranks cannot be played one lar... this involves pple who are less fortunate than us. some really regard this as mocking them.

    might be a long shot, but i really do not think i'd call up a friend and say i saw his wife getting knocked down by a truck as an april fools' joke....

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmacs View Post
    haha..i did think of that.

    i'll probably get flamed for this but what the heck. personally i don't find this a big deal. so what if they pulled a stunt like this...yeah some ppl's egos got bruised..is that why so many are so upset? if you look beyond the prank, there is still a message in there. they are not the first to try to fool the internet audience, and they most certainly won't be the last. maybe they are getting it bad cos they are singaporean?
    I agree with you.

    I loved the photos I saw, the story made them more intense because i starts to imagine in the first person's point of view.

    Now that I know its a hoax, although I felt fooled, but I feel its a job well done. To be fooled by them is neccessary in this journey through this project of theirs.
    Last edited by TrailsofLife; 3rd July 2007 at 07:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jOhO View Post
    well i assume eikin raised it up so that you might want to rectify any misconceptions on what you have said. if you don't think it's necessary, even tho it does seem that eikin has analysed the situation correctly, then no action needs to be taken i suppose.
    i will leave that to fstop to decide if his statement that I duped the organizer should stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max 2.8 View Post
    This is like "Blair Witch Project".

    If you know its a lie, you won't enjoy the movie as much.

    Although lying is not good, its neccessary in this case.
    i don't think they are comparable.

    the antagonists of the Blair Witch Project are the makers of the film themselves. the story is about the supernatural world.

    the object of Out Of Focus is the schizophrenic patient who lived and committed suicide.

    the level of artistic responsibility is already very different.

    the artists' stated intention is to present the visions of a schizophrenic. what they did was an attempt instead, they could have just stated that as so. lying was not necessary, unless they purposely wanted to sensationalise such awareness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jOhO View Post
    the lie is necessary for us to "enjoy" this tale of a poor guy who jumped to his death?????

    pls correct me if i've misunderstood u....
    Its not to "enjoy" but to feel the first person's emotion and mindset at that moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaychin View Post
    i will leave that to fstop to decide if his statement that I duped the organizer should stay.
    Well, for the records...

    I find that his statement based on the published records is deem as per information received.

    Likewise, i also wonder why you are not requesting from ST to give a proper apology for the misrepresentation of your point of view and statement. For most common folks here, most would deem the newspaper report as the truth than your one sided rebuttal without rectification.

    Being framed for duping others is quite a harsh allegation, reputation at stake...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jOhO View Post
    some pranks cannot be played one lar... this involves pple who are less fortunate than us. some really regard this as mocking them.

    might be a long shot, but i really do not think i'd call up a friend and say i saw his wife getting knocked down by a truck as an april fools' joke....
    erm..your example definitely too much lah. the character in question is not someone we know personally.

    i see 2 different things here..

    1. the character was fictitious though at the time it was made to seem real
    2. the "works" of the dead character are in no way a mockery to the less fortunate

    let's put it this way. if from the very start the photographers had explicitly stated that the character was fictional, i don't think many would have taken issue with pt 2. so it all boils down to pt 1. ppl are upset cos they got fooled.

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    i guess for watever reason they have to intially come up wif this prank.. we can leave it as that.. (yes, we were fooled, jus accept it)

    but to lie thru the process to get the works exhibited was not really accepatable..

    its like the hotel fella (cant remember which hotel) who was asked to leave when it was found that he lied in his resume... even though he was doing a great job in a high profile job...

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmacs View Post
    haha..i did think of that.

    i'll probably get flamed for this but what the heck. personally i don't find this a big deal. so what if they pulled a stunt like this...yeah some ppl's egos got bruised..is that why so many are so upset? if you look beyond the prank, there is still a message in there. they are not the first to try to fool the internet audience, and they most certainly won't be the last. maybe they are getting it bad cos they are singaporean?

    anyway in the link someone (was it eikin?) posted a few pages back, some ntu ppl more or less deduced that this was a hoax with all the doctored pics. i don't consider this anything worse than april fool's prank played by the newspapers in different countries.
    the severity of the issue is the abuse of the term ''Conceptual Art'' to fulfill some egoistic claim to artistic achievement. some people have little interest in such issues, some people are more concerned about such issues, your saying that people's ego got bruised only demonstrate the superficiality of your understanding of the consequences when put into the context of art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eikin View Post
    i don't think they are comparable.

    the antagonists of the Blair Witch Project are the makers of the film themselves. the story is about the supernatural world.

    the object of Out Of Focus is the schizophrenic patient who lived and committed suicide.

    the level of artistic responsibility is already very different.

    the artists' stated intention is to present the visions of a schizophrenic. what they did was an attempt instead, they could have just stated that as so. lying was not necessary, unless they purposely wanted to sensationalise such awareness.
    Just my point of view here, don't get upset. I like these guys works and I applaud them for such a great project, despite of the outroar of all the "buay song" people. Well done!
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