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    Default Who or How to determine RM or RF images

    As titled, who determines or how do you determine to classify the image as Rights Manages (RM) or Royalty Free (RF).

    Are there cases where images are "switched" from either to the other?
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    Default Re: Who or How to determine RM or RF images

    Normally the photographer determines it.

    Normally if you know an image is conceptually strong and has the potential to be sold many times, you should opt for RM for long-term gain. Most of the editorial shots are RM.

    And again normally FR image is more run-of-the-mill stuffs and its shelf life will trail off after the initial years of sales. It used to that photographers put their lesser quality stuffs as RF. However increasingly the quality of high-end RF is as good if not better than RM images.

    Some of the top earning photographers are shooting RF primarily. Averagely you'll get a better price for an image if you mark it as RF. Most will ask for model release or property release for RF images as the rights are not controlled as much as RM.

    Once you mark an image as RF you should not switch it to RM as few would let you do it. And you should not submit similar photos to RM too.

    Basically whether to go for RM or RF is a commercial decision.
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    Thanks. So it's the photographer who determines it upfront.

    What happens if I throw in exhibition prints that are for sales, can I use my own RM images for exhibitions and such?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    Averagely you'll get a better price for an image if you mark it as RF. Most will ask for model release or property release for RF images as the rights are not controlled as much as RM.
    umm... RF can get better price? I tot RM is more expensive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYRN View Post
    Thanks. So it's the photographer who determines it upfront.

    What happens if I throw in exhibition prints that are for sales, can I use my own RM images for exhibitions and such?
    If you have signed an exclusive contract with an agency you wouldn't be able to sell your RM or FR images yourself.

    I think they will let you use the images for exhibition and self-promotion. The contract will normally say something about this.

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    Default Re: Who or How to determine RM or RF images

    Quote Originally Posted by CYRN View Post
    umm... RF can get better price? I tot RM is more expensive?
    Averagely for a normal image.

    Exceptionally RM could fetch up to 5 figures. But this is very very very rare.
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    Thanks a lot.
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    For your protection (legal), photos of models/recognizble people should be RM, just in case they change their mind and want you to stop using their photos (even if they signed a release), then with RF you have no control whether someone will continue using that person's photo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sevenmichael View Post
    For your protection (legal), photos of models/recognizble people should be RM, just in case they change their mind and want you to stop using their photos (even if they signed a release), then with RF you have no control whether someone will continue using that person's photo.
    This is a very good angle to look at this issue. However I'm clueless about what other photographers practice.

    Comments anyone?
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    Default Re: Who or How to determine RM or RF images

    if you are sure that only you have that image then make it RM
    if that image can be duplicated easily then RF

    as the client will nt pay for easily duplicated images
    and will pay $$$ if they want your image no matter what

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    Default Re: Who or How to determine RM or RF images

    Just wondering, which stock photo site do you guys usually post your photos for sale.

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