Dunno why but our SG's police force isn't on the use of HP rounds... I'm not a cop but I learn some when I handled some weapons before...
.357's are powerful ones... even the .40 SW round is a powerful round as it is used with a larger chambered round crimped down to accept the smaller calibre of bullet.
I think s'pore's combi of 2xMP5 + 2x SAR21 is pretty good actually.
Airport has the passenger area and open space as well. Given a MP5 of range <100m, you can't hit sh*t without hitting unwanted target. This is the time when SAR21 comes into place, it can hit with pin point accuracy with a good rifleman at <400m.
standard 5.56mm ball maybe too strong, then use frangible rounds lor. Or sub-sonic rounds.
As for the SAR's, well... it's a toy gun, IMPO. And do you know the drop of the 5.56 at 400m? It's more than 1200mm... how can u still maintain accuracy then?? Frangible rounds? I believe there is ONLY 1 maker which makes such rounds, Glaser Blue. Sub-sonic rounds do not reduce impact, they just travel slower and prevent the sonic boom to be used in conjunction with silenced weapons.
This is way OT liao. Mebbe we can carry on the discussion on weapons in the Kopitiam area?
Thread moved from Portraits for obvious reasons...
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i am sure that tactical team does not adopt such 'spray and clear' tactics in most situations. imagine calling themselves tactical team when no specfic tactic adopted for each situation.
QUOTE=jsbn;3163055]SAR21? I'm not very sure. But I do know that 1 grenade + spray sure clear a room. [/QUOTE]
Our tactics? Enemy hiding in civilian hideout and firing at our Section? My Sgt just tell me, "Go lob 1." Its "one round away" frm me and after dat, grenade-spray everything.
No single fly or cockroach escapes my section's tactics. This is our tactic. 1 situation fits all. Complete annilihation.
lolx interesting thread here... so many weapon gurus in the forum lolx
Frangible rounds aren't usually used for situations other than where the operator is loaded with SMGs and pistols in confined spaces, like air marshals in an airliner. Because of the characteristics of frangible rounds, their weight and penetrative power, I imagine doctrines and tactics change completely, when those bullets are used. The lighter weight of frangible rounds means that the bullets are much less accurate, owning to greater susceptibility to wind, air resistance and gravity (when travelling at an elevation with lower inertia than a heavier bullet). All these factors mean a much shorter effective range. The lighter weight also means stopping power is much lower than with normal ball ammunition, because less kinetic energy is transferred into the body.Frangible rounds, singapore have a lot mah.
Their whole design and purpose also means that their use in a situation where multiple objects are present in the field of fire multiplies the amount of cover that the enemy can use several times over. Benches, rubbish bins, chairs, tables.. all the objects that would otherwise be easier penetrable by standard ammunition becomes uncertain, because if the bullet doesn't fragment on impact, they might not have the weight or kinetic energy to continue going straight through.