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    Default Why so many points in AiAF?

    Cameras these days have many-point-AF, for example, Canon has it's 9-point AiAF.

    However, what is the purpose of having so many points? In the end, isn't the focus on one plane only?

    Please enlighten thanks.

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    Focusing is not on 1 plane. Imagine you are taking a closeup of a person's face.
    If you only had center focus and use a shallow depth of field, only the nose will be sharp.
    If you have focus points on the corner, you can focus on the eye and make the nose blur.

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    Default Re: Why so many points in AiAF?

    it is mainly more catered for those who know nuts about how to focus correctly..
    hence the term "point and shoot" comes to mind...
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    I'm thinking it's a gimmick? Is it not? Even the human eye focusses on one thing at a time, are these cameras just trying to show what will be in focus?

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    Default Re: Why so many points in AiAF?

    Basically those are the points where the focusing sensors are located. By having more autofocus points, it enables a higher chance of getting the subject focused, especially in the AI servo mode.

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    I actually don't really bother with the amount of AF points. I usually only focus using the center point. I just point the center at the place I want to focus, then recompose the image.

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    Default Re: Why so many points in AiAF?

    Quote Originally Posted by megascriler View Post
    Cameras these days have many-point-AF, for example, Canon has it's 9-point AiAF.

    However, what is the purpose of having so many points? In the end, isn't the focus on one plane only?

    Please enlighten thanks.
    Well, it balances the aperture choice (which gives the DOF) to the centre of the whole scene ensuring that those faces would be within the DOF zone.

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    Default Re: Why so many points in AiAF?

    It is super useful especially if you are taking fast action stuff.
    Using AI Servo in sports, with many AF points, the camera can autofocus and track the subject better. Thats 1 reason why Canon 1 series rules in sports photography. If you watch EPL, you will notice 80-90% of long lenses photographers use are white!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gryphon View Post
    It is super useful especially if you are taking fast action stuff.
    Using AI Servo in sports, with many AF points, the camera can autofocus and track the subject better. Thats 1 reason why Canon 1 series rules in sports photography. If you watch EPL, you will notice 80-90% of long lenses photographers use are white!
    Exactly. For quick snaps and tracking - the AF simply picks the nearest subject with sufficient local contrast. I find the 9/11 point on the current Canon/Nikon mid-range adequate for quick snaps without having to manually select one or worry about losing the shot with focus-and-recompose. (However, the joystick on 20D/30D is still a BIG plus for direct selection of AF point.)

    That said, the curious Pentax K100D (dirt cheap) has 11 AF points and 9(!) of them are of the cross-type. BUT - it selects the center point 90% the time regardless of composition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorts View Post
    I actually don't really bother with the amount of AF points. I usually only focus using the center point. I just point the center at the place I want to focus, then recompose the image.
    Yea that's the way it should be but multiple points does help newbies. Come to think of it, many DSLR users I see these days don't know how to use the focus and recompose technique (which is a basic). Even DSLR have face detection now hehe.
    Last edited by melvinmah; 13th June 2007 at 11:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grantyale View Post
    Exactly. For quick snaps and tracking - the AF simply picks the nearest subject with sufficient local contrast. I find the 9/11 point on the current Canon/Nikon mid-range adequate for quick snaps without having to manually select one or worry about losing the shot with focus-and-recompose. (However, the joystick on 20D/30D is still a BIG plus for direct selection of AF point.)
    It won't be 100% accurate if you've multiple moving objects. Best is to be on continuous AF/servo, focus on the subject and keep it in frame.
    Last edited by melvinmah; 13th June 2007 at 11:41 AM.

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    Default Re: Why so many points in AiAF?

    the more the merrier
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    the multiple points for AF aides when you compose your image off center. Nothing with focus lock and recomposing, but i seldom do that, unless the subject is hard to focus (due to insufficient light, not enough texture for it to lock focus etc).

    where possible, i'll use the joystick to select the focal point put my subject closest to the AF point. This way, i find that i could lock focus more consistantly and more accurately, especially with fast big apeture lenses.

    but then again, thats me. perhaps i dont know how to use my camera after all. =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratix View Post
    the multiple points for AF aides when you compose your image off center. Nothing with focus lock and recomposing
    hi friend, don't mean to argue.

    http://www.tipsfromthetopfloor.com/l...then-recompose

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    To me, it has no use, but one. When you ask passer-bys to take a picture of you. Make sure you turn it on. ;-p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Ang View Post
    To me, it has no use, but one. When you ask passer-bys to take a picture of you. Make sure you turn it on. ;-p
    haha that's right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by melvinmah View Post
    Yea that's the way it should be but multiple points does help newbies. Come to think of it, many DSLR users I see these days don't know how to use the focus and recompose technique (which is a basic). Even DSLR have face detection now hehe.
    It doesn't take a newbie to appreciate the advantage of multiple AF points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grantyale View Post
    It doesn't take a newbie to appreciate the advantage of multiple AF points.
    maybe you can share some of the advantages with us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by melvinmah View Post
    maybe you can share some of the advantages with us?
    Come on - that's just a joke As has been pointed out, it helps when focus-and-recompse doesn't work well and when one's tracking a moving object.

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    Default Re: Why so many points in AiAF?

    Then what about the application to point and shoot cameras? It automatically chooses a few points that are on the focus plane, hence showing what will be in focus, and that's all?

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