Manual Camera

[justshot]

Hi all,

Can anyone recommend a fully manual camera to me?

No batteries slots.... therefore, no metering.

Any place still sell brand new?

Thanks in advance

[madmacs]

Originally Posted by justshot Hi all, Can anyone recommend a fully manual camera to me? No batteries slots.... therefore, no metering. Any place still sell brand new? Thanks in advance

you can try the fm3a. just remove the batteries if you want fully manual. brand new i think not so worth it. search for 1 in b&s.

[radedward]

rangefinder or slr?

if rangefinder, you can go look for chiif, he's in the forum and the website below
http://www.chiifcameras.com/content/view/40/57/


the only new manual slr around is the Nikon FM series. Cathay will probably have them

[Tetrode]

I think you are not clear of the terms.

There is a difference between a manual camera and one that is fully mechanical. As you can have fully manual cameras that have electronic shutters. i.e. they still need batteries to operate to their full potential.

From your post, I think you mean that you wish to buy a mechanical camera - one where the shutter mechanism doesn't require a battery to operate.

The only new Nikon FM series camera available now is the FM10 (which isn't really a Nikon but a cheap Cosina - not that there is anything wrong with that). The rest have been discontinued and you will be hard pressed to find one new in box in Singapore. But someone posted that he could still find NOS FM3as and FM2s in Indonesia.

You can pick up a mint but used FM2 from Ebay or BnS for not very much money. Plus you have a variety of other camera brands and models to choose from. e.g. OM1, Pentax K1000, etc.

Another alternative to 35mm SLR cameras is the Rolleicord Twin Lens Reflex and it's Jap clones like the Yashicas, Minolta Autocords and Ricoh Diacords. These are fully mechanical and most don't even have built in meters. These are Medium Format cameras with fixed lenses which will give you larger negatives, thus better resolution over 35mm.

I'd stay away from Seagull TLRs (even though you can still get them new) as their reliability is very questionable.

[Andy Ang]

I am still using FM10. Light and small!

[justshot]

Thanks everyone for your respones.

Tetrode, yes, you are right. I am indeed looking for a full mechanical camera. You mentioned FM10. Is that the one? If so, worth buying?

Sorry for my innocent questions...

[madmacs]

Originally Posted by justshot Thanks everyone for your respones. Tetrode, yes, you are right. I am indeed looking for a full mechanical camera. You mentioned FM10. Is that the one? If so, worth buying? Sorry for my innocent questions...

fm10 is made by cosina. i would rather go for a used fm3a or fm2.

radedward mentioned rangefinder. interested in trying that?

[justshot]

Hi Madmacs, is FM3a or FM2 a full mechanical camera?

[madmacs]

Originally Posted by justshot Hi Madmacs, is FM3a or FM2 a full mechanical camera?

both have exposure metering but will work without batteries.

[justshot]

Thanks madmacs. Any recomendation for a full mechanical camera?

[madmacs]

Originally Posted by justshot Thanks madmacs. Any recomendation for a full mechanical camera?

cannot just remove the battery huh? see the list by tetrode then.

how about medium format with just the waist level finder?

[felixcat8888]

Wow, Now you look for these type. 20 yrs back very common. Now considered rare liao. Try 2nd hand shops.

Brands that were fully mechanical:
Cosina S1, C1
Nikon FM10
Practika (East German Brand - Very Solid in build)
Minolta SRT101
Olympus OM-1, OM2n
Yashica FX-3 Super 2000
Konica AutoReplex
Ricoh KR10, KR5, XR-1
Asahi Pentax LX, (K1000 - Basically a rebadged Cosina)
Canon FT -1
Chinon

Some European Brands:
Dixon - Basically a rebadged Cosina for the European Market
Phoenix P1, P2
Miranda - Basically a rebadged Cosina for the European Market
Vivitar V2000 - Basically a rebadged Cosina for the European Market
Zenit 122 (Russian SLR)
Phenix DC303 - Rebranded Minolta (China)

These are some of the really old Mechanical Cams

[JoshSiao]

You won't go wrong with a Nikon F1. Yes, first series professional Nikon to hold the F mount. Hard to find though.

[madmacs]

i think a bit hard to find one brand new totally without metering... even my konica tc-x i bought in 1986 had a battery for metering

[madmacs]

take your pick from here.

http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography...ares/classics/

[madmacs]

how about a leica m4 series? confirm no meter

[Tetrode]

Originally Posted by justshot Thanks everyone for your respones. Tetrode, yes, you are right. I am indeed looking for a full mechanical camera. You mentioned FM10. Is that the one? If so, worth buying? Sorry for my innocent questions...

I would recommend getting a used but mint condition FM2 instead of the FM10. A used FM2 will cost the same as a new FM10 but is a much better camera all round. The fully mechanical FM2 is a camera that you will be able to pass down to your grand kids (as long as you don't stick your finger into the shutter).

You don't have to use the meter on an FM2 by removing the batteries. If you are worried of batteries running low, you won't have to worry with the FM2, the batteries last a long time in the camera.

A mint FM2 will set you back about $350-450 on ebay or BnS.

[justshot]

Thanks Tetrode

If you come accross a good deal for FM2, do let me know. In the meantime, I will search around.

[xunjas]

er.. canon eos 650.. born in 1987 mar, canon first slr..

[madmacs]

Originally Posted by xunjas er.. canon eos 650.. born in 1987 mar, canon first slr..

the eos650 is not canon's first slr, and definitely not fully mechanical