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    Hrm, having some doubts. Let's say if you are entitled for 16 days annual leave per year, can you apply that 16 days at anytime of the year? Or the maximum number of leaves you can apply at any time is based on the monthly pro rated figure? Salary is above $1.6k.

    Any idea?

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    Default Re: Leave entitlements

    Quote Originally Posted by togu View Post
    Hrm, having some doubts. Let's say if you are entitled for 16 days annual leave per year, can you apply that 16 days at anytime of the year? Or the maximum number of leaves you can apply at any time is based on the monthly pro rated figure? Salary is above $1.6k.

    Any idea?

    I think it really depends on the company and Human Resource policy.
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    Most companies allow you to take in advance when you are a confirmed employee. However, if you resign later, then you'll need to "pay back" those days you took, either with a longer notice period, or no pay working days etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123 View Post
    Most companies allow you to take in advance when you are a confirmed employee. However, if you resign later, then you'll need to "pay back" those days you took, either with a longer notice period, or no pay working days etc.
    yup, this apply to most company. But sometimi there are some restriction like whether the boss approve the application, or must clear certain amount of leave before certain time.
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    The best is to check with your HR dept. Every company has different policies. For my company, they only allow you to take pro-rated leave that you have earned, so that means in January of any year, you can only take 1/12 of your current year leave entitlement plus whatever balance from your previous year.
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    First of all..pay and leave do not have any relation..

    Annual leave is a priviliege not entitlement..let say u apply for leave..its still subject to superior approval..but can always apply urgent leave to counter this loop hole..

    Usually leave is given out annually..for instance, 12 days of annual leave is equivalent to 1 day of leave per month..let say u work 7 months in a company..upon resignation they will calculate the balance leave..lets say u already took 5 days of leave within this 7 months..so u only left with 2 days to clear..
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    So it's up to the company then. We are taking the pro rated scheme.

    That means if my pro-rated balance for this month left with 0 days, and yet I want to take 1 day leave on end of this month, I'll either have to bug my boss for advance leave, take no pay leave, or take MC then.

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    it depends on the co's hr policies on leave entitlements. whether consumption is on a earned basis. eg. by end jun, one would have earned 8 days, thus, one may consume up to 8 days of earned leave. however, if one needs more than 8 days eg. to go on a holiday trip. the excess of 8 days may be treated as unearned leave where the co treat it like no pay leave.

    however if the hr practice is unearned basis, one may consume more than 8 earned days of leave.

    Quote Originally Posted by togu View Post
    Hrm, having some doubts. Let's say if you are entitled for 16 days annual leave per year, can you apply that 16 days at anytime of the year? Or the maximum number of leaves you can apply at any time is based on the monthly pro rated figure? Salary is above $1.6k.

    Any idea?

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    or encashment of 2 days of unconsumed earned leave, upon resignation.

    Quote Originally Posted by blazer_workz View Post
    First of all..pay and leave do not have any relation..

    Annual leave is a priviliege not entitlement..let say u apply for leave..its still subject to superior approval..but can always apply urgent leave to counter this loop hole..

    Usually leave is given out annually..for instance, 12 days of annual leave is equivalent to 1 day of leave per month..let say u work 7 months in a company..upon resignation they will calculate the balance leave..lets say u already took 5 days of leave within this 7 months..so u only left with 2 days to clear..

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    Quote Originally Posted by blazer_workz View Post
    First of all..pay and leave do not have any relation..

    Annual leave is a priviliege not entitlement..let say u apply for leave..its still subject to superior approval..but can always apply urgent leave to counter this loop hole..

    Usually leave is given out annually..for instance, 12 days of annual leave is equivalent to 1 day of leave per month..let say u work 7 months in a company..upon resignation they will calculate the balance leave..lets say u already took 5 days of leave within this 7 months..so u only left with 2 days to clear..
    IIRC Annual leave is an entitlement and off day is a privilege.
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    Yea, but it would depend on the terms of the employment contract. If it just says "X Days annual leave", then it is an entitlement since it does't state any other conditions for the taking of leave.

    Unless, someone knows of some case law which finds an implied condition that leave is subject to approval.

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    most of the time the HR will close 1 eye and you can take all the leave for the year as long as you don't leave the company. complications come in when you used up all your leave and you wanna quit in the middle of the year. The most common course of action is to deduct pay for the leave (treat as no pay leave).
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    If you salary is above $1.6K, that means you are non-bargainable. Whatever you can or cannot do, entitlement or not depends solely on your employee booklet and contract. So study your employee booklet and see if you find any loopholes to tap on

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    i can't quote case law on this. however, approval of annual leave is subject to 'exigencies of duties'. if otherwise, then, employees have the final say in taking of leave, regardless of exigencies of their duties at work.

    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123 View Post
    Yea, but it would depend on the terms of the employment contract. If it just says "X Days annual leave", then it is an entitlement since it does't state any other conditions for the taking of leave.

    Unless, someone knows of some case law which finds an implied condition that leave is subject to approval.

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    there are occasions when the final salary is insufficient to deduct against consumed unearned leave(treated as no pay leave). concerned employee needs to 'cough up' in hard cash.

    Quote Originally Posted by yanyewkay View Post
    most of the time the HR will close 1 eye and you can take all the leave for the year as long as you don't leave the company. complications come in when you used up all your leave and you wanna quit in the middle of the year. The most common course of action is to deduct pay for the leave (treat as no pay leave).

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    Hmm? Will this happen when the person takes more than one month leave in advance?

    Quote Originally Posted by reachme2003 View Post
    there are occasions when the final salary is insufficient to deduct against consumed unearned leave(treated as no pay leave). concerned employee needs to 'cough up' in hard cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123 View Post
    Hmm? Will this happen when the person takes more than one month leave in advance?
    wow.. where to get 1 month leave entitlement? I think hardly any jobs have that many leave in a year for you to use "in advance" (unearned leave)
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    it even occurs when the employee takes less than one month's leave. as deduction of no pay leave is against earned wages, less employee cpf contributions and other deductions, if applicable. also, commonly known as take home pay. hopes it is clear.

    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123 View Post
    Hmm? Will this happen when the person takes more than one month leave in advance?

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    Default Re: Leave entitlements

    You can take the 16 days any time of the year (unless your company schedule annual leave for its employees). Should you resign after taken all the 16 days of annual leave then your final salary is deducted in accordance to the pro-rated number of annual leave taken.

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