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    I am a newbie. I recently got into this hobby and I am presently using B+W MRC UV Haze SLim filters on all my lenses. I also use B+W Slim Circ Polarizing filters for my lenses.
    However, I would like to experiment more with ND, Gradual filters, and other types of filters.
    Can someone please share with me how to use filters such as ND,Lee or Cokin filters?
    Thanks in advance for your advice.
    D300 /18-200VR/ 80-200 F2.8/12-24F4/ 50mm F1.4/ 28-70F2.8/ 70-200VRF2.8/85mm F1.8 SB600

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    Anyone care to help out on this? Desperate for advice leh!
    D300 /18-200VR/ 80-200 F2.8/12-24F4/ 50mm F1.4/ 28-70F2.8/ 70-200VRF2.8/85mm F1.8 SB600

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    Do a web search.

    "How to use filters such as ND, Lee or Cokin filters?"

    You just use la, don't really understand what you mean, really.

    In short, Neutral Density filters simply extend your exposure time. This is useful when you want something moving in your picture that won't usually move, i.e. since you'd freeze the action.

    The most common usage of ND filters would be to give flowing water. Because it allows you to extend the exposure timing, the water will appear to be silky, rather than frozen at that very moment when you press the shutter. Another usage would be cloud trails - probably only doable at night I guess.

    For GND filters - graduated neutral density filters, they allow you to attain a sort of HDR effect - if you've taken landscapes before and place a prominent object in the foreground.. You won't be able to capture the sky AND the object's details unless the sky is very, very, very dark. A GND allows you to do so, as the filter gradually increases the ND factor from top to bottom, or bottom to top, depending your situation - usually sky part will need to be relatively underexposed to bring details out.. So the darkest part will be on top most of the time lor.

    For DSLR, I have only used Hoya ND and just got my Cokin P series GND a few days back.. Hoya ND is just screw on.. Cokin P series will have 3 parts - the filter holder (which is pretty generic, holds 3 filters usually, you only need one of these), an adaptor ring (you need to get more than one of these if you are planning to use the filter system on lenses of different thread size).. And the filters themselves.

    You can find more information on Cokin P series (P means up to 82mm thread size, IIRC) on the Cokin website. Donch be lazy, like I always say!

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    For DSLR, I have only used Hoya ND and just got my Cokin P series GND a few days back.. Hoya ND is just screw on.. Cokin P series will have 3 parts - the filter holder (which is pretty generic, holds 3 filters usually, you only need one of these), an adaptor ring (you need to get more than one of these if you are planning to use the filter system on lenses of different thread size).. And the filters themselves.

    You can find more information on Cokin P series (P means up to 82mm thread size, IIRC) on the Cokin website. Donch be lazy, like I always say!
    Where's the best place to get the P series + some GND filters and for how much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmmtn4aj View Post
    Where's the best place to get the P series + some GND filters and for how much?
    I won't know.

    But I got 52 mm adaptor ring, filter holder for 3 slots + GND 2 stop grey from CP for $48.

    Why would you think that I have some booklet where all the prices of each store for GND and Cokin filters will be there? =D Donch be lazy and go and walk around yourself!

    For filters the price difference is often minimal so long as you don't get chopped. At most differ by 10 dollars, well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    Do a web search.

    "How to use filters such as ND, Lee or Cokin filters?"

    You can find more information on Cokin P series (P means up to 82mm thread size, IIRC) on the Cokin website. Donch be lazy, like I always say!
    Thanks for the heads up! BTW, while browsing around CP, noticed CP selling B+W electronic filter kits. Have you used them?
    D300 /18-200VR/ 80-200 F2.8/12-24F4/ 50mm F1.4/ 28-70F2.8/ 70-200VRF2.8/85mm F1.8 SB600

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    Thanks, needed the information too!
    I'm not lazy... always go and walk but sometimes don't even know where to start asking and some camera shop guys don't look friendly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSurfer66 View Post
    Thanks for the heads up! BTW, while browsing around CP, noticed CP selling B+W electronic filter kits. Have you used them?
    Whats that B+W electronic filter kits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSurfer66 View Post
    Thanks for the heads up! BTW, while browsing around CP, noticed CP selling B+W electronic filter kits. Have you used them?
    Electronic filter kits? 0.o

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    Electronic filter kits? 0.o
    Yep. Saw B+W filter kits for the PC! Any idea how they work? I may go down to CP and enquire! SRP SGD$139 per set of 6 electrionic filters per pack (2 packs Scenery -Includes ND Grads! and Portrait pack)
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    Hiya SilverSurfer - u got some helluva equipment dude!! Wow, a neat collection of some nice lenses (my eventual road map some of them)...and u say ur a newbie!?!? !! (you're being v v modest right!??...haha) Cheers mate.

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSurfer66 View Post
    I am a newbie. I recently got into this hobby and I am presently using B+W MRC UV Haze SLim filters on all my lenses. I also use B+W Slim Circ Polarizing filters for my lenses.
    However, I would like to experiment more with ND, Gradual filters, and other types of filters.
    Can someone please share with me how to use filters such as ND,Lee or Cokin filters?
    Thanks in advance for your advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSurfer66 View Post
    Yep. Saw B+W filter kits for the PC! Any idea how they work? I may go down to CP and enquire! SRP SGD$139 per set of 6 electrionic filters per pack (2 packs Scenery -Includes ND Grads! and Portrait pack)
    Thats add on filters for photoshop. Photoshop itself contain set of filters that you might want to try first before buying commercial add on filters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artosoft View Post
    Thats add on filters for photoshop. Photoshop itself contain set of filters that you might want to try first before buying commercial add on filters.

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    Don't need la, like that.

    Probably for the lazy people.. =D

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    just FYI... cathay has an ongoing sale for their Cokin A and P series filter holders and filters.. it's about 60% off listed price (means 60% off the price on the price tag), which is very slightly cheaper than normal.. just bought some last week...
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    when is it until
    i went to buy a few days ago...the person nv tell me abt the sale

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSurfer66 View Post
    ...I would like to experiment more with ND, Gradual filters, and other types of filters.
    Can someone please share with me how to use filters such as ND,Lee or Cokin filters?


    1) ND filter: Easy to use. Applicable to

    a) Waterfall/flowing water effect;
    b) Bright landscape (sandy-beach, snow, etc);
    c) IR-photography/B&W photography to give stronger contrast.

    2) GND filter: Not easy to use.

    a) Rectangular slot-in type (like Lee & Cookin) better in which the division of density is adjustable; where circular type is always fixed at 50%.
    b) Soft GND filter better in which the density gradually increse so you won't get a hard edge; more commonly used in landscape.
    c) Use filter sheet at least 20% larger than your lens diameter so you won't get vignetting on wide-angle composition.
    d) General application on landscapes composition with clear horizon; a lot harder to use on non-uniform mountain ranges & valleys.

    3) Lee or Cookin?

    That depends on your budget and filter size...
    Lee is a lot more expensive but the best in its class Also come in full range of filters to choose from. Filter sizes can fit up to medium-format lenses.

    On the other hand, Cookin is way cheaper.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumiere View Post
    when is it until
    i went to buy a few days ago...the person nv tell me abt the sale
    not too sure.. i saw the advert in the new paper 1-2 weeks back.. it just said to check stores for details... no exact deadline....

    have to check with them coz today they have a new promotion for tripods....
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