Ultrawide or a fishEye ?

Icedlink · 9th May 2007

Hi everyone in CS~

just wana ask all the sifu's here.

I'm just a newbie with a D80 and 18-200 Vr,

Any ideas which to choose between Sigma 10-20 or Tokina 10-17 ? due to limited $ i can only choose 1 of this glass...

I just was wondering if its possible to
defish it in order to get a decent or acceptable ultra wide pic

eg tokina taken at 10mm original has 180fov and being corrected to about 107Fov like the sigma 10mm.

sample pics of the Tokina and comparison with canon and sigma fisheyes.
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/re...1/17/5039.html

( very large images ) i have a 7mbps bandwidth. and it takes time ( i loaded 5 pics at a time... )

for the Sigma as a TIPA winner i think it does not need any introduction ... hehee..

ideas comments pls ....

calebk · 9th May 2007

Either way, both lenses are 10mm at the widest focal length. If you dont want the fish-eye effect, just go for the Sigma.

I find your query very weird. It would seem you're getting a WA just for focal length coverage, and you haven't quite found a need/use for it just yet.

Scaglietti · 9th May 2007

Basically, it'll depends on whether you want the distortion effects from the FE lens.

BC

night86mare · 9th May 2007

Do you like the fisheye effect?

Can you live with curvey horizons? I can't. If I have a lot of money I might get a FE, but that's me.

You have to ask yourself that.

ortega · 9th May 2007

if it were me, i'd get the WA instead of the FE
main reason is that the WA will be used more often than the FE

Icedlink · 9th May 2007

thanks for the replies

not getting a ultra wide just for focal length coverage ....
its just that i cant afford to get both at a time. so was just wondering if its possible to defish tokina and use it as a wide angle ( with a acceptable pic quality ) so that i can have a FE and a ultrawide(PP) w/o buying two seperate lenses

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i know the fact that after defishing picture quality will decrease, especially at the edges. yet just want to know that if its still acceptable coz I need to take pics of soviet era buildings designs and land scape. and at times a ultra wide just isnt wide enough and other times a fe might just have too much distortions in it.

so if any one has a tokina 107 could help me out here ?
or should i get the 10-20 sigma now and save up for a FE later on...

silvergetz · 9th May 2007

Nobody can help you im afraid, as both are use for different purposes to achieve different effects. It depends alot on your preferences.

U can defish to get the wide angle view but quality will be compromised. But not the other way. Hope it helps, if any.

Icedlink · 11th May 2007

Thanks for all the Replies

I've made my mind and got the Tokina.

Btw it ROCKS !

http://www.rokkorfiles.com/funwithfisheyes.htm
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=248&t=213690

try the links above the 2nd one has comparison of tokina 12-24 @ 12mm and the 10-17 @ 17mm

the fisheye is almost as wide and correctable with good results.

9th May 2007	#1
Icedlink New Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4	Ultrawide or a fishEye ? Hi everyone in CS~ just wana ask all the sifu's here. I'm just a newbie with a D80 and 18-200 Vr, Any ideas which to choose between Sigma 10-20 or Tokina 10-17 ? due to limited $ i can only choose 1 of this glass... I just was wondering if its possible to defish it in order to get a decent or acceptable ultra wide pic eg tokina taken at 10mm original has 180fov and being corrected to about 107Fov like the sigma 10mm. sample pics of the Tokina and comparison with canon and sigma fisheyes. http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/re...1/17/5039.html ( very large images ) i have a 7mbps bandwidth. and it takes time ( i loaded 5 pics at a time... ) for the Sigma as a TIPA winner i think it does not need any introduction ... hehee.. ideas comments pls ....

9th May 2007	#2
calebk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Clementi Posts: 10,476	Re: Ultrawide or a fishEye ? Either way, both lenses are 10mm at the widest focal length. If you dont want the fish-eye effect, just go for the Sigma. I find your query very weird. It would seem you're getting a WA just for focal length coverage, and you haven't quite found a need/use for it just yet. __________________ deviantART \| fotologue

9th May 2007	#3
Scaglietti Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,543	Re: Ultrawide or a fishEye ? Basically, it'll depends on whether you want the distortion effects from the FE lens. BC

9th May 2007	#4
night86mare Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: in your mind Posts: 19,262	Re: Ultrawide or a fishEye ? Do you like the fisheye effect? Can you live with curvey horizons? I can't. If I have a lot of money I might get a FE, but that's me. You have to ask yourself that. __________________ Gallery \| Dreamscapes 09 Pentaxian 伪君子之所以更可憎

9th May 2007	#5
ortega Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NorthEast Posts: 16,504	Re: Ultrawide or a fishEye ? if it were me, i'd get the WA instead of the FE main reason is that the WA will be used more often than the FE __________________ The Law

9th May 2007	#6
Icedlink New Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4	Re: Ultrawide or a fishEye ? thanks for the replies not getting a ultra wide just for focal length coverage .... its just that i cant afford to get both at a time. so was just wondering if its possible to defish tokina and use it as a wide angle ( with a acceptable pic quality ) so that i can have a FE and a ultrawide(PP) w/o buying two seperate lenses . i know the fact that after defishing picture quality will decrease, especially at the edges. yet just want to know that if its still acceptable coz I need to take pics of soviet era buildings designs and land scape. and at times a ultra wide just isnt wide enough and other times a fe might just have too much distortions in it. so if any one has a tokina 107 could help me out here ? or should i get the 10-20 sigma now and save up for a FE later on...

9th May 2007	#7
silvergetz Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 742	Re: Ultrawide or a fishEye ? Nobody can help you im afraid, as both are use for different purposes to achieve different effects. It depends alot on your preferences. U can defish to get the wide angle view but quality will be compromised. But not the other way. Hope it helps, if any.

11th May 2007	#8
Icedlink New Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4	Re: Ultrawide or a fishEye ? Thanks for all the Replies I've made my mind and got the Tokina. Btw it ROCKS ! http://www.rokkorfiles.com/funwithfisheyes.htm http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=248&t=213690 try the links above the 2nd one has comparison of tokina 12-24 @ 12mm and the 10-17 @ 17mm the fisheye is almost as wide and correctable with good results.