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    Default Re: Advice needed for Night Shot of Citylights and People

    Quote Originally Posted by radedward View Post
    No really sure why you want to do such a shot but...

    It might be possible to do it with full manual controls over the camera and an external flash and lots of trial and error.

    you set the input the same settings under manual mode and then use an external flash and manually control the power.

    After the flash goes off, you get out of the picture immediately and wait for the exposure to end. then you check if the foreground and you are horribly underexposed or overexposed and then compensate the settings on the flash accordingly.

    IMHO, I think this will not create the effect TS wants. By doing this, I think he will appear "translucent".. much like ghost effect. I think multiple exposure will not work here as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blowblue View Post

    Ok i produced this picture after i saw a couple of guys doing somewhat similar thing.
    Nikon D70s, ISO:200, Rear Flash (in-built flash), f/8.0, Exposure time:13 seconds.

    My question is how can i get sharpness and prevent any blurriness on the person (i.e. me in the picture). I have tried not moving for 13 seconds but it cant be helped!

    I will also need to maintain at f/8.0 to get clear picture of the background.

    Help will be appreciated
    Try this, use the same exposure setting that you used to take this shot but this time stand out of the way... count to 12 secs and quickly move in to the frame, your movement in to the frame will not be seen assuming that the lighting on you when moving is minimal... the rear sync flash will capture your image at the end of the exposure....

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    Default Re: Advice needed for Night Shot of Citylights and People

    Quote Originally Posted by zj2000 View Post
    Try this, use the same exposure setting that you used to take this shot but this time stand out of the way... count to 12 secs and quickly move in to the frame, your movement in to the frame will not be seen assuming that the lighting on you when moving is minimal... the rear sync flash will capture your image at the end of the exposure....
    nice try,

    but the lights behind you will shine thru you body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    nice try,

    but the lights behind you will shine thru you body.
    Well the other way is choose a spot that is not very well illuminated and stand there for 13 seconds.... the flash would be able to freeze you hopefully....

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    i think the best way to do this is by using the HDR method. take one pic of just the background and then one pic of you and an underexposed background then combine the two

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    Default Re: Advice needed for Night Shot of Citylights and People

    Quote Originally Posted by zj2000 View Post
    Well the other way is choose a spot that is not very well illuminated and stand there for 13 seconds.... the flash would be able to freeze you hopefully....
    it is not the light from the front, I'm talking the light behind him. refer to the photo again.

    Quote Originally Posted by blowblue View Post


    Ok i produced this picture after i saw a couple of guys doing somewhat similar thing.
    Nikon D70s, ISO:200, Rear Flash (in-built flash), f/8.0, Exposure time:13 seconds.

    My question is how can i get sharpness and prevent any blurriness on the person (i.e. me in the picture). I have tried not moving for 13 seconds but it cant be helped!

    I will also need to maintain at f/8.0 to get clear picture of the background.

    Help will be appreciated
    anyway, without go thru photoshop, it can be done, all he need to do is totally hold still for 13 seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    it is not the light from the front, I'm talking the light behind him. refer to the photo again.
    yes i know... it is also obvious from the foto that the place he was standing was quite well lite causing the yellowish aura around him....

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    Default Re: Advice needed for Night Shot of Citylights and People

    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    it is not the light from the front, I'm talking the light behind him. refer to the photo again.



    anyway, without go thru photoshop, it can be done, all he need to do is totally hold still for 13 seconds.
    zj200's 2nd suggestion might work. By standing in a very poorly lit area, camera will be less sensitive to his movement. And with him physically standing there, background light will not reach the sensor. Dun think it will be perfect (may have darker shadow around him), but he will surely appear sharper.

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    Default Re: Advice needed for Night Shot of Citylights and People

    still don't get it??

    what he want is the background night scene with lights,
    if expose half way than the person jump in the scene,
    where the place he stand has already expose with background citylights
    so he become a half transparent ghost liao.

    if background no light, than why so troublesome to ask the person jump in and out.
    just pop a flash shot will do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    still don't get it??

    what he want is the background night scene with lights,
    if expose half way than the person jump in the scene,
    where the place he stand has already expose with background citylights
    so he become a half transparent ghost liao.

    if background no light, than why so troublesome to ask the person jump in and out.
    just pop a flash shot will do.
    i think you should read my reply again....

    Quote Originally Posted by zj2000 View Post
    Well the other way is choose a spot that is not very well illuminated and stand there for 13 seconds.... the flash would be able to freeze you hopefully....

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    Default Re: Advice needed for Night Shot of Citylights and People

    Quote Originally Posted by zj2000 View Post
    yes i know... it is also obvious from the foto that the place he was standing was quite well lite causing the yellowish aura around him....
    that is caused by him of moving during the exposure, the flash also obviously underexpose.

    wrong white balance too.
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    Default Re: Advice needed for Night Shot of Citylights and People

    just a simple technical, know how it works, anyone also can do.

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    very interesting thread on topic i have been pondering recently.
    in fact i was abt to try out 1/2 sec, iso 400, f4, redeye flash.
    duno whether the effect is ok.

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    Default Re: Advice needed for Night Shot of Citylights and People

    Quote Originally Posted by zj2000 View Post
    i think you should read my reply again....
    I see, miss out this part...
    Quote Originally Posted by zj2000 View Post
    Well the other way is choose a spot that is not very well illuminated and stand there for 13 seconds.... the flash would be able to freeze you hopefully....
    Ok, perhaps you know which part of Merlion Park is not so bright, I long time never been there, not very sure also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    just a simple technical, know how it works, anyone also can do.

    guy look a bit overexposed and unnatural

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    Default Re: Advice needed for Night Shot of Citylights and People

    Quote Originally Posted by sin77 View Post
    guy look a bit overexposed and unnatural


    I hope he will not pop in here.....
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    Default Re: Advice needed for Night Shot of Citylights and People

    anyway, want to try this type of shots..

    best time is around 7.15pm, just right after sunset, the street lights has lighted up, and the sky is still in very nice blue, this is the time that we call "magic hour", the best time for city scape night scene.

    set up tripod, use flash, pose the person, depend on the ambient light, the shutter speed is around one or two second, very easy to hold still.

    hope this help.
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    Default Re: Advice needed for Night Shot of Citylights and People

    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    anyway, want to try this type of shots..

    best time is around 7.15pm, just right after sunset, the street lights has lighted up, and the sky is still in very nice blue, this is the time that we call "magic hour", the best time for city scape night scene.

    set up tripod, use flash, pose the person, depend on the ambient light, the shutter speed is around one or two second, very easy to hold still.

    hope this help.
    your photo has nice colors, sharpness is there too..

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