Nuclear power is to way to go to save earth?

denniskee · 6th May 2007

just watch a tv show in cna, looking at the world and the climate change due to the carbon dioxide causing the green house effect, and that we have no practical solution to generating the large amount of electricity without emmiting co2 other tha hydro-electric (but this also create a big inpact to the environment and ecco-system), it seems nuclar power plant is the way to go.

accident does happens, so a melt down is possible, but small price when compared to not doing anything, or rather no alternative practical solution. scientist say 20 more years will be the point of no return.

TMC · 6th May 2007

no. mankind needs to die.

deckard · 6th May 2007

in the future, all cars will be powered by Mr Fission. Remember the de Lorean from back to the future?

No more worries!

compro_1975 · 6th May 2007

wat abt the waste? we may create more problem if the waste is not properly taken care of especially in countries where there is corruption

kelccm · 6th May 2007

Cold fusion is the way. Plus hot superconducters

initialE24 · 6th May 2007

Originally Posted by denniskee

just watch a tv show in cna, looking at the world and the climate change due to the carbon dioxide causing the green house effect, and that we have no practical solution to generating the large amount of electricity without emmiting co2 other tha hydro-electric (but this also create a big inpact to the environment and ecco-system), it seems nuclar power plant is the way to go.

accident does happens, so a melt down is possible, but small price when compared to not doing anything, or rather no alternative practical solution. scientist say 20 more years will be the point of no return.

the wisdom of mankind, coming to nothing......

yanyewkay · 6th May 2007

instead of thinking how to create more energy, why not think of how to REDUCE energy consumption. Sometimes it works better the other way round.

Every individual counts. If it doesn't starts from you, then who?

I agree with TMC, we all deserve to die.

jmmtn4aj · 6th May 2007

A meltdown is a small price to pay? Hahahaha. In case you didn't know, Chernobyl dispersed radioactive dust around nearly half the world which directly lead to hundreds of thousands of cases of cancer, deformities in newborns, and mutation in wildlife. Even now, the shell that surrounds Chernobyl is eating up billions a year in maintenance and miles of land in either direction of the plant are still uninhabitable.

If nuclear power will ever be the way to go, that it has to be completely fail-proof. Unfortunately the process of building a nuclear power plant is already extremely expensive, never mind the installing of advanced and extensive safety features. Price is exactly the reason why so few countries are using nuclear power plants right now.

eikin · 6th May 2007

there's a photo essay on magnumphotos.com showing the after effects of the chernobyl incident. the pictures are too disturbing so i shan't put the link here, anyone interested to find out the extensiveness of the damage on human beings can do a quick search.

yanyewkay · 6th May 2007

one of the technical reasons why Chernobyl failed was because they had incompetent control engineers that stupidly implemented a positive feedback control loop.

EDIT: For the non-technically inclined, you can reproduce this effect by putting your mic in front of the speakers and hear that nice tone coming from soft to loud and it doesn't stop getting louder until your system burns out.

forward · 6th May 2007

The issue of gobal warming had been brought up more than a decade
ago, however government of many countries turn a death ear.
Only a couple of months ago the argument on its effects has been
broadcast daily over BBC and that in turn brought about the news
in the press worldwide.

Currently the countries are preparing to an agreement on how they
should work together to produce an effective strategy to reduce
this danger.

Fortunately even our SM has encouraged to be part of this program
and as photography community we should do our part by starting
bit by bit. Here are some immediate task one can take:

1) Use a smaller size monitor instead of trying to expand into the
27inch or bigger screen.

2) Switch off pc instead of putting it on standby mode when not in use.

3) Use a foldable bicycle or regular street bicycle for
commuting whenever possible even though you have a car
or a motorbike.

4) Don't use the air-conditioner, use a fan instead or open up all
the windows of your room if you feel warm.

Any other suggestions are welcomed.....

Thanks in advance.

yanyewkay · 6th May 2007

use a broom not vacuum cleaner.
car-pool
go for green cars

jmmtn4aj · 6th May 2007

Originally Posted by yanyewkay

one of the technical reasons why Chernobyl failed was because they had incompetent control engineers that stupidly implemented a positive feedback control loop.

EDIT: For the non-technically inclined, you can reproduce this effect by putting your mic in front of the speakers and hear that nice tone coming from soft to loud and it doesn't stop getting louder until your system burns out.

One of. There were several reasons, and those reasons are still not the only things that can go wrong with nuclear reactors, computers, and their human operators and designers.

lovells19 · 6th May 2007

the main reason why we cannot go green is money

we go green, you know how much money the oil company will lose?

best way is for human being to go extinct, thats when earth will be able to heal itself.

forward · 6th May 2007

Originally Posted by lovells19

the main reason why we cannot go green is money

we go green, you know how much money the oil company will lose?

best way is for human being to go extinct, thats when earth will be able to heal itself.

This statement is not far to being correct, it is the truth as predicted
in the holy writing that the earth will one day be destroyed by water
and fire.

Humans are also notoriously known as the environmental destroyer.
Just wait for the day to come, where forest fire, floods and the nom
will take millions of lives away. So no countries are spared from
this future happensings.

redstorm · 6th May 2007

Originally Posted by lovells19

the main reason why we cannot go green is money

we go green, you know how much money the oil company will lose?

best way is for human being to go extinct, thats when earth will be able to heal itself.

Yeah, wait for a few milllion years for the earth to heal itself before life begins all over again. Then comes the next civilisation where we start off as caveman again.

yanyewkay · 6th May 2007

Originally Posted by jmmtn4aj

One of. There were several reasons, and those reasons are still not the only things that can go wrong with nuclear reactors, computers, and their human operators and designers.

It is the major contributing factor. Had it employed a negative feedback system. Anything going out of control will be spiralled to a diminishing output.

yanyewkay · 6th May 2007

Originally Posted by lovells19

the main reason why we cannot go green is money

we go green, you know how much money the oil company will lose?

best way is for human being to go extinct, thats when earth will be able to heal itself.

exactly, sad but true.

since sec school I've been hand-carrying my small items without plastic bags. Many have scoffed at me for not getting my money's worth.

CYRN · 6th May 2007

Firstly... I tot there's a need to clear up some misconception about Chernobyl. It happened because of a poorly managed "experiment".

http://www.uic.com.au/nip22.htm

Impact was bad, but not as bad as one think.

Even the sites where the 2 atomic bombs were detonated are relatively "rebuilted". Tho the radiation and physchological effects are still lingering.

nottipiglet · 6th May 2007

Did you read the news a couple of days back? There's this element/compound called Helium-3 that is found on the moon. Through the cold fusion process, 6cu-tonne can yield enough energy to power UK for a year.

The Russians are rushing to the moon to mine it commercially. The US was initially reluctant (probably from Oil lobbying), but they too realised that they cannot lose out on this race. So NASA will be going up to mine also.

It should be a viable energy source in around the mid of this century. It won't be any earlier because they cannot do cold fusion in such a large scale because we are technologically not quite there yet.

So, I think the moon will save the earth.

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denniskee Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: bukit batok Posts: 4,395	Nuclear power is to way to go to save earth? just watch a tv show in cna, looking at the world and the climate change due to the carbon dioxide causing the green house effect, and that we have no practical solution to generating the large amount of electricity without emmiting co2 other tha hydro-electric (but this also create a big inpact to the environment and ecco-system), it seems nuclar power plant is the way to go. accident does happens, so a melt down is possible, but small price when compared to not doing anything, or rather no alternative practical solution. scientist say 20 more years will be the point of no return. __________________ photography makes one sees things from all angles.

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TMC Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Beyond Space-Time Continuum Posts: 5,924	Re: nuclar power is to way to go to save earth? no. mankind needs to die.

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deckard Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,244	Re: nuclar power is to way to go to save earth? in the future, all cars will be powered by Mr Fission. Remember the de Lorean from back to the future? No more worries!

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yanyewkay Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cons digger. Posts: 4,047	Re: nuclar power is to way to go to save earth? instead of thinking how to create more energy, why not think of how to REDUCE energy consumption. Sometimes it works better the other way round. Every individual counts. If it doesn't starts from you, then who? I agree with TMC, we all deserve to die. __________________ “How fortunate for leaders that men do not think.” - Adolf Hitler

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jmmtn4aj Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 996	Re: nuclar power is to way to go to save earth? A meltdown is a small price to pay? Hahahaha. In case you didn't know, Chernobyl dispersed radioactive dust around nearly half the world which directly lead to hundreds of thousands of cases of cancer, deformities in newborns, and mutation in wildlife. Even now, the shell that surrounds Chernobyl is eating up billions a year in maintenance and miles of land in either direction of the plant are still uninhabitable. If nuclear power will ever be the way to go, that it has to be completely fail-proof. Unfortunately the process of building a nuclear power plant is already extremely expensive, never mind the installing of advanced and extensive safety features. Price is exactly the reason why so few countries are using nuclear power plants right now. __________________ Zenfolio

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eikin Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 東京 Tokyo Posts: 10,920	Re: nuclar power is to way to go to save earth? there's a photo essay on magnumphotos.com showing the after effects of the chernobyl incident. the pictures are too disturbing so i shan't put the link here, anyone interested to find out the extensiveness of the damage on human beings can do a quick search. __________________ APAD

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forward Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 374	Re: nuclar power is to way to go to save earth? The issue of gobal warming had been brought up more than a decade ago, however government of many countries turn a death ear. Only a couple of months ago the argument on its effects has been broadcast daily over BBC and that in turn brought about the news in the press worldwide. Currently the countries are preparing to an agreement on how they should work together to produce an effective strategy to reduce this danger. Fortunately even our SM has encouraged to be part of this program and as photography community we should do our part by starting bit by bit. Here are some immediate task one can take: 1) Use a smaller size monitor instead of trying to expand into the 27inch or bigger screen. 2) Switch off pc instead of putting it on standby mode when not in use. 3) Use a foldable bicycle or regular street bicycle for commuting whenever possible even though you have a car or a motorbike. 4) Don't use the air-conditioner, use a fan instead or open up all the windows of your room if you feel warm. Any other suggestions are welcomed..... Thanks in advance.

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lovells19 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Deep Deep in the sea Posts: 3,257	Re: nuclar power is to way to go to save earth? the main reason why we cannot go green is money we go green, you know how much money the oil company will lose? best way is for human being to go extinct, thats when earth will be able to heal itself.

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CYRN Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 4,501	Re: nuclar power is to way to go to save earth? Firstly... I tot there's a need to clear up some misconception about Chernobyl. It happened because of a poorly managed "experiment". http://www.uic.com.au/nip22.htm Impact was bad, but not as bad as one think. Even the sites where the 2 atomic bombs were detonated are relatively "rebuilted". Tho the radiation and physchological effects are still lingering. __________________ Gallery \| Facebook Page Spreading the Good photography. Last edited by CYRN; 6th May 2007 at 12:45 PM.

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nottipiglet Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 749	Re: nuclar power is to way to go to save earth? Did you read the news a couple of days back? There's this element/compound called Helium-3 that is found on the moon. Through the cold fusion process, 6cu-tonne can yield enough energy to power UK for a year. The Russians are rushing to the moon to mine it commercially. The US was initially reluctant (probably from Oil lobbying), but they too realised that they cannot lose out on this race. So NASA will be going up to mine also. It should be a viable energy source in around the mid of this century. It won't be any earlier because they cannot do cold fusion in such a large scale because we are technologically not quite there yet. So, I think the moon will save the earth.