E330 with lenses and flash

Verticoastro · 18th April 2007

Dear all, I'm looking to chang from Canon systems to Olympus... here's the choices of camera, lens and flash I'm looking for... anyone have any review on this few equipments? I'm using it for landscape, and it will follow me to most of my trekking trip in Malaysia, Thailand etc... I also using it for a little bit of sport...

How much will the entire system like this cost?

E-330
ZUIKO DIGITAL 14-54mm 1:2.8-3.5
ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 50-200mm 1:2.8-3.5
FL-50

I have with me

EOS 400D with battery grip
EF17-40mm f4
EF70-200mm f4
Speedlite EX580
Kenko teleconveter
Kenko 12,24,36mm extension tube
Third party 90 degree view finder
Third party cable remote

drakon09 · 18th April 2007

Hmm, if you're planning to get everything brand new why don't you wait a bit for the new lenses and camera bodies?

The E-410 will be out in a week or so, the E-510 in a month's time.

The new 12-60mm SWD and 50-200mm SWD should be out in Aug/Sep.

A new wireless flash system is replacing the old flashes, should also be out in Aug/Sep.

Price-wise would probably be close to 5k.

Verticoastro · 18th April 2007

I only want to get a very basic system to go... budget wise it about 2500K or less... is the focusing fast?

what's your comment on the E330? I feel that the ZUIKO DIGITAL 14-54mm 1:2.8-3.5
ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 50-200mm 1:2.8-3.5
range it good enough...

what is SWD?

Blu-By-U · 18th April 2007

E-330 is a very nice camera provided you don't get one that have banding. It's a joy to use and you have the benefit of an articulated LiveView.

You choice of lens are also good. But to keep initial ownership cost low, get the Kit with the 14-45. Wait for the new 50-200mm. But if the screen is not important to you, then ad drakon mention, wait for the new E-410 or the E-510.

Verticoastro · 18th April 2007

Thanks for the information, what is the banding thing?

I wanted to keep my budget around 2500K... can I still get the above mention setup that I wanted? if not I don't get the flash first...I shoot landscape most of rthe time, so the live preview thing can be a bonus thing to me... as I don't have to look into the 90 degree view finder which can be quite a eye sore...

drakon09 · 18th April 2007

Originally Posted by Verticoastro

I only want to get a very basic system to go... budget wise it about 2500K or less... is the focusing fast?

what's your comment on the E330? I feel that the ZUIKO DIGITAL 14-54mm 1:2.8-3.5
ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 50-200mm 1:2.8-3.5
range it good enough...

what is SWD?

SWD is the Oly-equivalent of the USM; so focusing will be a lot faster than the older lenses.

The price of the E-330 should plunge upon the release of the new cams.

The 14-54mm costs about SGD750 and the 50-200mm SGD1600 brand new.

The FL-50 is about SGD600.

Verticoastro · 18th April 2007

Then I shall maintain the setup that I plan... what set up you using now?

Blu-By-U · 18th April 2007

Maybe it would. Considering that the new E-510 have much more to offer except the articulated LiveView.

Anyway, read through this link banding discussion Don't be put off by this discussion as this banding only affect a small portion of the E-330. Just follow the procedure on how to test for this error. And since you are buying it new, test the camera before paying. If the banding exist, then ask for another unit.

drakon09 · 18th April 2007

E-1 and E-300,

11-22mm, 50-200mm, 50mm Macro and 18-180mm,

FL-36

Blu-By-U · 18th April 2007

Me....

E-330 (but in hospital now)

11-22, 35, 14-45, 14-54, 40-150, EC14, FL50 and sigma 55-200

Panasonic DMC-LC50, Lots of 35mm film P&S and a few SLRs.

tunghk · 19th April 2007

since you said you are doing quite a bit of trekking and stuff, Personally think you should get a used E1 and with the lenses, your setup is weather proof except the flash. Although E1 is a rather old cam with 5mp, I think most of the E1 users here will still vouch for its picture quality. As I don't shoot sports, I don't know if this setup cater for your need.

Also, for trekking, if you use live view, your batt might be draining pretty fast so you might have to revert to the view finder and the E1's view finder I am sure is much brighter and bigger. Having said that, I have notice there are not many CSers selling their E1 over the B&S thread so you may will have to be wait for a while.

Blu-By-U · 19th April 2007

Nope. no E-1 for me. The reason for the E-330 is the LiveView. If it's not for the LiveView, I may not have gotten a dSLR in the first place.

tao · 19th April 2007

Hey Verticoastro, that is quite a nice Canon setup you already got. Got me thinking why you want to make the switch?

Anyway, if you decided not to wait for the E-410/510 and want to get the E-330, I think that the best thing to do is to buy it from US, in which there is a fire sale for the E-330 now at unbelieveable prices.

See here: http://www.adorama.com/IOME330K3.htm...-330&item_no=9

At such a price, you can get it and sell both the kit lenses for at least $300 and then buy the lenses you want. It is cheaper than 2nd hand and you still get Olympus' excellent 1year international warranty.

It is a no brainer for a DSLR with great image quality, I have already got my bro in US to order one to upgrade from his E-300.

cjtune · 21st April 2007

Originally Posted by Blu-By-U

Maybe it would. Considering that the new E-510 have much more to offer except the articulated LiveView.

Anyway, read through this link banding discussion Don't be put off by this discussion as this banding only affect a small portion of the E-330. Just follow the procedure on how to test for this error. And since you are buying it new, test the camera before paying. If the banding exist, then ask for another unit.

I only need one thing more to go with an articulated Liveview: Image Stabilisation...

Then all of those overhead, long range shots in crowded events would be just super, especially when I can move about for better vantages!

Yeah, as Blu suggests, please test out a candidate E-330 by shooting underexposed or at shadowy regions at high ISOs and review the pictures. If you find the severity of the weird stripes (if any) objectionable, ask for another E-330 body. Getting a replacement or having it fixed is far from easy.

selamatlzh · 21st April 2007

Base on your requirement i guess is better off you stay with dual kit lens. Why ? Is because they are lighter to travel with and meets your budget. The plus point of e330 is its articulating lcd as to compare with the upcoming one. In terms of upcoming potential flaws with the new camera we do not know yet. Blu and someothers who encounter banding issues are some serious flaws that not everyone encounter. The new kit lens are smaller but you loose some light in return.

18th April 2007	#1
Verticoastro Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Central Posts: 1,204	E330 with lenses and flash Dear all, I'm looking to chang from Canon systems to Olympus... here's the choices of camera, lens and flash I'm looking for... anyone have any review on this few equipments? I'm using it for landscape, and it will follow me to most of my trekking trip in Malaysia, Thailand etc... I also using it for a little bit of sport... How much will the entire system like this cost? E-330 ZUIKO DIGITAL 14-54mm 1:2.8-3.5 ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 50-200mm 1:2.8-3.5 FL-50 I have with me EOS 400D with battery grip EF17-40mm f4 EF70-200mm f4 Speedlite EX580 Kenko teleconveter Kenko 12,24,36mm extension tube Third party 90 degree view finder Third party cable remote __________________ Canon 5D \| EF 20-35mm f3.5-4.5 USM \| EF 28-70mm f2.8 L IS USM \| Sigma 20mm f1.8 \| Sigma 50mm f1.4 Last edited by Verticoastro; 18th April 2007 at 08:40 PM. Reason: wish to ad more information...

18th April 2007	#2
drakon09 Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,690	Re: E330 with lenses and flash Hmm, if you're planning to get everything brand new why don't you wait a bit for the new lenses and camera bodies? The E-410 will be out in a week or so, the E-510 in a month's time. The new 12-60mm SWD and 50-200mm SWD should be out in Aug/Sep. A new wireless flash system is replacing the old flashes, should also be out in Aug/Sep. Price-wise would probably be close to 5k. __________________ www.facebook.com/darrengyh Last edited by drakon09; 18th April 2007 at 08:49 PM.

18th April 2007	#3
Verticoastro Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Central Posts: 1,204	Re: E330 with lenses and flash I only want to get a very basic system to go... budget wise it about 2500K or less... is the focusing fast? what's your comment on the E330? I feel that the ZUIKO DIGITAL 14-54mm 1:2.8-3.5 ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 50-200mm 1:2.8-3.5 range it good enough... what is SWD? __________________ Canon 5D \| EF 20-35mm f3.5-4.5 USM \| EF 28-70mm f2.8 L IS USM \| Sigma 20mm f1.8 \| Sigma 50mm f1.4

18th April 2007	#4
Blu-By-U Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Selangor D.E. Posts: 1,417	Re: E330 with lenses and flash E-330 is a very nice camera provided you don't get one that have banding. It's a joy to use and you have the benefit of an articulated LiveView. You choice of lens are also good. But to keep initial ownership cost low, get the Kit with the 14-45. Wait for the new 50-200mm. But if the screen is not important to you, then ad drakon mention, wait for the new E-410 or the E-510. __________________ World thru my lens

18th April 2007	#5
Verticoastro Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Central Posts: 1,204	Re: E330 with lenses and flash Thanks for the information, what is the banding thing? I wanted to keep my budget around 2500K... can I still get the above mention setup that I wanted? if not I don't get the flash first...I shoot landscape most of rthe time, so the live preview thing can be a bonus thing to me... as I don't have to look into the 90 degree view finder which can be quite a eye sore... __________________ Canon 5D \| EF 20-35mm f3.5-4.5 USM \| EF 28-70mm f2.8 L IS USM \| Sigma 20mm f1.8 \| Sigma 50mm f1.4 Last edited by Verticoastro; 18th April 2007 at 09:07 PM.

18th April 2007	#7
Verticoastro Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Central Posts: 1,204	Re: E330 with lenses and flash Then I shall maintain the setup that I plan... what set up you using now? __________________ Canon 5D \| EF 20-35mm f3.5-4.5 USM \| EF 28-70mm f2.8 L IS USM \| Sigma 20mm f1.8 \| Sigma 50mm f1.4

18th April 2007	#8
Blu-By-U Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Selangor D.E. Posts: 1,417	Re: E330 with lenses and flash Maybe it would. Considering that the new E-510 have much more to offer except the articulated LiveView. Anyway, read through this link banding discussion Don't be put off by this discussion as this banding only affect a small portion of the E-330. Just follow the procedure on how to test for this error. And since you are buying it new, test the camera before paying. If the banding exist, then ask for another unit. __________________ World thru my lens

18th April 2007	#9
drakon09 Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,690	Re: E330 with lenses and flash E-1 and E-300, 11-22mm, 50-200mm, 50mm Macro and 18-180mm, FL-36 __________________ www.facebook.com/darrengyh

18th April 2007	#10
Blu-By-U Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Selangor D.E. Posts: 1,417	Re: E330 with lenses and flash Me.... E-330 (but in hospital now) 11-22, 35, 14-45, 14-54, 40-150, EC14, FL50 and sigma 55-200 Panasonic DMC-LC50, Lots of 35mm film P&S and a few SLRs. __________________ World thru my lens

19th April 2007	#11
tunghk Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upp Bukit Timah Posts: 178	Re: E330 with lenses and flash since you said you are doing quite a bit of trekking and stuff, Personally think you should get a used E1 and with the lenses, your setup is weather proof except the flash. Although E1 is a rather old cam with 5mp, I think most of the E1 users here will still vouch for its picture quality. As I don't shoot sports, I don't know if this setup cater for your need. Also, for trekking, if you use live view, your batt might be draining pretty fast so you might have to revert to the view finder and the E1's view finder I am sure is much brighter and bigger. Having said that, I have notice there are not many CSers selling their E1 over the B&S thread so you may will have to be wait for a while.

19th April 2007	#12
Blu-By-U Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Selangor D.E. Posts: 1,417	Re: E330 with lenses and flash Nope. no E-1 for me. The reason for the E-330 is the LiveView. If it's not for the LiveView, I may not have gotten a dSLR in the first place. __________________ World thru my lens

19th April 2007	#13
tao Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Land of the Vegetables Posts: 2,956	Re: E330 with lenses and flash Hey Verticoastro, that is quite a nice Canon setup you already got. Got me thinking why you want to make the switch? Anyway, if you decided not to wait for the E-410/510 and want to get the E-330, I think that the best thing to do is to buy it from US, in which there is a fire sale for the E-330 now at unbelieveable prices. See here: http://www.adorama.com/IOME330K3.htm...-330&item_no=9 At such a price, you can get it and sell both the kit lenses for at least $300 and then buy the lenses you want. It is cheaper than 2nd hand and you still get Olympus' excellent 1year international warranty. It is a no brainer for a DSLR with great image quality, I have already got my bro in US to order one to upgrade from his E-300.

21st April 2007	#15
selamatlzh Gallery Subscriber Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sinagpore Posts: 849	Re: E330 with lenses and flash Base on your requirement i guess is better off you stay with dual kit lens. Why ? Is because they are lighter to travel with and meets your budget. The plus point of e330 is its articulating lcd as to compare with the upcoming one. In terms of upcoming potential flaws with the new camera we do not know yet. Blu and someothers who encounter banding issues are some serious flaws that not everyone encounter. The new kit lens are smaller but you loose some light in return.