remote cable

[iamcy]

hi i'm using an e-500, is my camera compatible with the remote control cables
RM-UC1 and RM-CB1? these are e only 2 that i can find through e net but my camera was not stated. need help on where i can get suitable remote cables as i'm starting to take night shots and its hard to avoid camera shake even on e tripod unless i use anti-shake mode which takes v v v long

[OlyFlyer]

No, unfortunately not. The RM-1 is the only way to take remote. This is one of the major fault or design error Oly E-500 has. In fact all the other Oly cameras need special cable which is in my opinion a design flaw. It should only have a standard 2.5 or 3.5 mm round earphone contact. The simplest and cheapest way. In stead, the E-500 has no contacts and the others need a battery grip or/and a special cable.

For this approach Oly gets:

[iamcy]

lol so there is totally no way of using a cable? maybe an adaptor or is there 3rd party for dis?

[splim]

can try this one S$15.00. http://www.perfectpixelcameraparts.c...d&productId=96

[cyuxiang]

For one, u can set a 2 second timer so your shutter button press will not affect the capture.

[iamcy]

thanks alot... haha $15! xD yea tts a way, but in e future when i go on to fireworks i would need bulb mode ... hopefully olympus comes up wif something by den T_T

[OlyFlyer]

Originally Posted by cyuxiang For one, u can set a 2 second timer so your shutter button press will not affect the capture.

Not the same and not enough. Absolutely not comparable. In that case IR is better.

[OlyFlyer]

Originally Posted by iamcy thanks alot... haha $15! xD yea tts a way, but in e future when i go on to fireworks i would need bulb mode ... hopefully olympus comes up wif something by den T_T

RM-1 works for bulb also but it is more expensive unless you make one yourself.

[Mikefellh]

Originally Posted by iamcy lol so there is totally no way of using a cable? maybe an adaptor or is there 3rd party for dis?

NO, because you have to have the ability in camera before the third party can supply a solution...and the E-500 doesn't have the ability to use a cable remote.

Why do YOU want to use a cable when there's an infrared remote (the IR can control more, including bulb)?

(I should point out that I have both the RM-1 and RM-CB1 for my E-300, so I know the pluses and minuses of each, and actually use the IR remote more than the cable remote.)

[Mikefellh]

Originally Posted by cyuxiang For one, u can set a 2 second timer so your shutter button press will not affect the capture.

Originally Posted by OlyFlyer Not the same and not enogh. Absolutely not comparable. In that case IR is better.

If you're absolutely paranoid about camera shake, you can set the Anti-Shock (mirror lock-up) feature to a specific number of seconds...that way the mirror goes up, a few second pause (depending on what you set the timer to), and then the shutter opens.

[OlyFlyer]

Originally Posted by Mikefellh Why do YOU want to use a cable when there's an infrared remote (the IR can control more, including bulb)?

While I also use the IR it has a big disadvantage outdoors. You have to be in front of the camera or fix a small mirror that directs the IR to the IR eye. Indoors, if the roof is not too high it works most of the times pointing anywhere, at least my home made one.

[OlyFlyer]

Originally Posted by Mikefellh If you're absolutely paranoid about camera shake, you can set the Anti-Shock (mirror lock-up) feature to a specific number of seconds...that way the mirror goes up, a few second pause (depending on what you set the timer to), and then the shutter opens.

I was going to write about the mirror lock also but that makes it even more different than a wire since it takes forever before the picture is taken. Not very useful for fireworks for example. I am not paranoid but shooting with long tele and bad light or macro with bellows or extension tubes and tripod I always use mirror lock. Would really welcome a wire.

[cyuxiang]

Originally Posted by OlyFlyer Not the same and not enough. Absolutely not comparable. In that case IR is better.

Yes but I don't see how an IR would be better, since it also has a delay: http://www.camerahacker.com/Forums/D...rol._RM-1.html

The anti-shake & the 2-second timer are alternatives if TS doesn't see the need to buy the IR remote. I'll be glad if Oly actually included it, because even my Powershot G2 came standard with the IR remote 6 yrs ago.

[Mikefellh]

Originally Posted by cyuxiang I'll be glad if Oly actually included it, because even my Powershot G2 came standard with the IR remote 6 yrs ago.

Olympus used to include it with higher-end digicams, but based on what they heard back it was one of those things that most people don't really use, so they decided for lower-end cameras that it would no longer be included (yes, the E-300 & E-500 are lower end cameras even though they are dSLRs), and people could decide for themselves if they want it or not.

[OlyFlyer]

Originally Posted by cyuxiang Yes but I don't see how an IR would be better, since it also has a delay: http://www.camerahacker.com/Forums/D...rol._RM-1.html The anti-shake & the 2-second timer are alternatives if TS doesn't see the need to buy the IR remote. I'll be glad if Oly actually included it, because even my Powershot G2 came standard with the IR remote 6 yrs ago.

The link you included say 1-2 seconds delay introduced by Olympus. That is wrong. IR remote controls use serial communication protocols. Messages are sent through the IR LED to tell the camera what to do. Unfortunately it takes some time to send out all the bits and to check and interpret them. The time it takes for the shutter to open with my home made RM-1 compatible remote is about 0.5 seconds, assuming the focus is right. If the focus is wrong it takes more time since the camera focus must settle first. I have no idea about the original RM-1 since I never had one. Anyway, if you set the self timer to two seconds the red led will flash four times before releasing the shutter. With my home made RM-1 compatible it flashes only once. The difference in time between the two second self timer and the IR control is definitely noticable, IR wins by large margin. The other thing is that by pressing the release you introduce camera shake. That can be eliminated by using a longer self timer delay or (better) to add a mirror lock of at least 4-5 seconds and don't use the self timer at all. You can easily calculate what that delay will do to your "freezing the moment in time" picture. What you will freeze is the time after that moment, long after. Yes, while the Moon may not move far during those seconds, if you are going to photograph people, well, just forget about that.

While the lack of proper wire release was one of my greatest disappointments with my E-500, in most situations the IR is better replacement than the self timer because it is usable. The self timer is just for taking pictures of self portraits or as a last resort emergency antishake. If the TS considers the IR useless or not is up to him/her. IMO it is worth the investment if tripod is often used. In most indoor shootings it is not even sensitive to direction, since IR is light, it is reflected just like any other light. So, if the light ray's distance to the camera isn't over the remote's range it works well. Again, I am talking about my most powerful remote, I know nothing about the RM-1, or the clone mentioned here. If the remote is often used outdoors, a small aluminium foil can be glued to the camera body to reflect the IR ray's to the camera's IR eye, enabling to use the IR remote from behind the camra.

[OlyFlyer]

Originally Posted by Mikefellh Olympus used to include it with higher-end digicams, but based on what they heard back it was one of those things that most people don't really use, so they decided for lower-end cameras that it would no longer be included (yes, the E-300 & E-500 are lower end cameras even though they are dSLRs), and people could decide for themselves if they want it or not.

I don't work for Oly, so I have no idea how they think. What made me mad and made me decide never to pay money for the RM-1 is that in my opinion, I paid enough to them already. The production costs for the RM-1 can not be higher than US$5. It is not true that they only included in their top models. Did E-1 owners got one? I don't think so. Is it included in any E-system cameras at all? No, not as far as I can see. Anyway, in Europe it is included in almost every P&S Oly package and definitely in some of the cheaper ones. Some has only the RM-2 but even that is better than nothing.

[Blu-By-U]

I kept the remote supplied with my 8080 when I found it could be used with the E-330. To answer why are they not included with dSLR, Olympus marketing would be the best to answer that.